Hurdle with Emily Abbate

Peak fall running weather has arrived in New York City, and as race season kicks into high gear, Emily is diving into what it means to be grounded by community and how to show up for yourself when big goals feel daunting. Ahead of marathon weekend, she shares her two biggest pieces of advice for first-time marathoners: recognizing that the starting line already proves who you've become, and giving yourself grace rather than judging your beginnings too harshly. Later in the episode, Emily answers a listener question from Jen, who is tackling the Chicago Marathon while dealing with a fresh diagnosis of plantar fasciitis. Emily discusses how to navigate the mental battle of letting go of initial time goals, shifting focus toward staying healthy, and using "I Am" affirmations to focus on what you can control when plans change. SOCIAL @emilyabbate @hurdlepodcast @iheartwomenssports SUBSCRIBE: Hurdle's YouTube Channel SIGN UP: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Weekly Hurdle Newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ASK ME A QUESTION: Email [email protected] to with your questions! Emily answers them every Friday on the show. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Olympic silver medalist, indoor world championship medalist, and 2,000-meter world record holder Jess Hull sits down IRL in Australia to talk through the mindset, patience, and grit behind her historic career. Jess opens up about leaving home at 18 to run for the University of Oregon, the evolution of being coached by her father, and how walking away hungry from the Tokyo Games laid the foundation for her monumental medal run in Paris. She also breaks down the freedom found in speed, the supportive yet competitive camaraderie defining the women’s 1,500m field, why delayed gratification is an athlete’s superpower, and the vital role of celebrating progress over perfection. IN THIS EPISODE Chasing Dreams Across the Globe: The decision to leave Australia at age 18 to compete collegiate-level at the University of Oregon, adapting to a new country, and catching the travel bug. The Father-Daughter Coaching Dynamic: Evolving from high school coaching to working under Maurica Powell in college, to reuniting with her father in 2023 as a mature athlete on the exact same wavelength. Tokyo Heartbreak to Paris Glory: Why placing 11th in Tokyo sparked a crucial mindset shift, and what it felt like to capture the momentum and soak in a victory lap in Paris. Delayed Gratification & Internal Validation: Why athletes have to embrace the long, invisible grind, manage days when things don't click, and measure success by personal feeling rather than just external hardware. Finding Freedom in Speed: What running fast really feels like at altitude in St. Moritz, the role of rhythm over forcing effort, and the power of "spinning" instead of fighting the track. Sisterhood in the 1,500m: The unique mix of fierce rivalry and genuine warmth inside the call room, spearheaded by leaders like Faith Kipyegon. Keeping Perspective: Balancing professional identity with life off the track—new homes, growing families, and keeping eyes fixed on the long runway toward the 2032 Brisbane Games. QUOTABLE MOMENTS "When you're going after something... you get to do this. You're chasing it because your heart's got the desire for it... when you can embrace the process of something and you truly learn to love the journey along the way, that's what you're going to remember." "I had an Olympic dream growing up... but achieving it and the rush of capturing a wave in 2024 and the momentum into an Olympic Games—it's what every athlete wishes that they could have." "You have medals, but you don't pull them out and look at them every day... it's a token for a lot of hard work, but if you're just searching for the medal, you're not even scratching the surface of what the journey is." "The harder you try, the slower you run. If you kind of just go with the flow of it, you'll be surprised at how much more effortless fast feels." "It was never with this whole desire of being the best from such a young age. It was celebrating just progress." SOCIAL @jessicaahull @hurdlepodcast @emilyabbate @iheartwomenssports JOIN: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Daily Hurdle IG Channel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ SIGN UP: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Weekly Hurdle Newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ASK ME A QUESTION: Email [email protected] to with your questions! Emily answers them every Friday on the show. Listen to Hurdle with Emily Abbate on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Emily's back in the studio after 35 days away! In this episode, Emily reflects on the immense joy of returning home to simple daily routines and the practical ways she resets when a busy schedule starts to feel overwhelming. She also answers a listener question about what makes long-term travel hard and how to preserve your sanity when your regular life is on pause. SOCIAL @emilyabbate @hurdlepodcast @iheartwomenssports SUBSCRIBE: Hurdle's YouTube Channel SIGN UP: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Weekly Hurdle Newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ASK ME A QUESTION: Email [email protected] to with your questions! Emily answers them every Friday on the show. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Five-time Olympic medalist, NBC track & field analyst, entrepreneur, and author Sanya Richards-Ross sits down to talk about elite performance, mental conditioning, and redefining life after track. From moving to the U.S. from Jamaica as a kid to holding the 400m American record for 19 years, Sanya shares what it truly takes to dial in the mental side of competition, navigate crushing defeat, and step boldly into broadcasting and motherhood. IN THIS EPISODE Navigating the Chaos of Modern Motherhood: Balancing ambition, travel, and career demands while managing working-mom guilt with the support of family. Roots, Relocation, and Rising Up: Immigrating from Kingston, Jamaica, adjusting to school in Florida, and finding community on the track. The Defining Father-Daughter Talk: How a junior-year hamstring injury sparked an intentional shift toward elite-level discipline and work ethic. Why the 400m Chooses You: Breaking down the strategy, pacing, and pain cave that make the 400m arguably the toughest footrace on the oval. Reframing Heartbreak at Beijing 2008: The mental recovery required after a crushing Olympic bronze and the rally to win 4x400m gold three days later. The Psychology of Gold: Working with a sports psychologist, building vision boards, and internalizing the race-day mantra: "I refuse to lose." Manifesting the Broadcast Booth: Stepping away from competitive track due to foot injuries, declaring career ambitions out loud, and debuting live to 30 million viewers. Saying Yes When You’re Scared: Facing high-stakes moments with courage, embracing television, and launching businesses like Co-Ordinates and MommiNation. Looking Ahead to LA 2028: Highlighting the depth of Team USA talent and the next generation of track and field stars. QUOTABLE MOMENTS "In your pursuit of excellence, you never really draw a finish line. You keep on figuring out what is that next level of excellence that I can attain." "Being great wouldn't just happen because I was talented. I would have to be intentional about being great." "When you get to that level of competition—when you're at the Olympics, at the World Championships—it’s 10% physical and 90% mental. Everybody there is physically capable of winning." "Most of us are doing it scared. The biggest stars ... they're not Mr. Cool. You have nerves and anxiety because it matters to you." "Closed mouths don't get fed. You want to speak those things into life." "Failure is a necessary ingredient in the recipe for success. Embrace it and just keep going." SOCIAL @sanyarichiross @hurdlepodcast @emilyabbate @iheartwomenssports JOIN: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠The Daily Hurdle IG Channel⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ SIGN UP: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Weekly Hurdle Newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ASK ME A QUESTION: Email [email protected] to with your questions! Emily answers them every Friday on the show. Listen to Hurdle with Emily Abbate on the iHeartRadio app, Apple Podcasts, or wherever you get your podcasts. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Emily reflects on wrapping up her travels in Australia, leaning into spontaneous "yes" moments, and answering a listener question about her reading routines. She shares what she’s looking forward to most about returning home to New York City (from her own bed to familiar local spots), the gratitude she’s carrying back with her, and how leaning into open-mindedness led to unexpected local connections in Bondi and an impromptu trip up to Noosa to visit Nike coach Lydia O'Donnell. BOOKS MENTIONED Dying to Run by Matt Fitzgerald The Calamity Club by Kathryn Stockett Let's Fking Date by Serena Kerrigan SOCIAL @emilyabbate @hurdlepodcast @iheartwomenssports SUBSCRIBE: Hurdle's YouTube Channel SIGN UP: ⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠Weekly Hurdle Newsletter⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠⁠ ASK ME A QUESTION: Email [email protected] to with your questions! Emily answers them every Friday on the show. See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.