In “Uncounted Millions: The Power of Reparations,” host Trymaine Lee used the story of <a href="https://www.msnbc.com/msnbc-podcast/uncounted-millions-get-free-rcna138686" target="_blank">Gabriel Coakley</a> and his family to explore past and future conversations around reparations. That conversation has come to include educational institutions, many of which were built and sustained through enslavement, like the one mere blocks from Coakley’s home in Washington, DC: Georgetown University. On this special bonus episode, sponsored by <a href="https://www.wkkf.org/" target="_blank">the W.K. Kellogg Foundation</a>, Into America dives into racial reconciliation and the GU272. Trymaine speaks with descendants of the 272 enslaved people sold to save the university, and the Jesuit leader trying to work towards repair. What can these conversations teach us about what, if anything, can be done to heal the past?If you want more of Into America & you’re close to New York, check out a live event at the 92nd Street Y on May 29. We’ll continue the conversation on reparations with special guests <a href="https://nikolehannahjones.com/" target="_blank">Nikole Hannah-Jones</a> and <a href="https://www.google.com/search?gs_ssp=eJzj4tVP1zc0zMlOKUoyLqg0YPTiz81MzkhMzVHISCwqyswvAQCoiwrg&q=michael+harriot&rlz=1C5CHFA_enUS1019US1019&oq=michael+har&gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUqDQgCEC4YgwEYsQMYgAQyBggAEEUYOTINCAEQLhiDARixAxiABDINCAIQLhiDARixAxiABDINCAMQABiDARixAxiABDINCAQQLhiDARixAxiABDINCAUQLhiDARixAxiABDIKCAYQLhixAxiABDIQCAcQLhivARjHARiABBiOBTIHCAgQLhiABDIHCAkQABiPAtIBCDI3NDdqMGo0qAIAsAIA&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8" target="_blank">Michael Harriot</a>. For more information, go to <a href="https://www.92ny.org/events" target="_blank">92NY.org/events</a>.And, some great news: <a href="https://www.msnbc.com/intoamerica" target="_blank">Into America</a> and our colleagues at <a href="https://www.msnbc.com/prosecuting-donald-trump" target="_blank">Prosecuting Donald Trump</a> have been nominated for Webby Awards! And MSNBC needs your help to win. Check out <a href="https://vote.webbyawards.com/PublicVoting#/2024/advertising-media-pr/advertising-campaigns/best-video-campaign" target="_blank">vote.webbyawards.com</a> and search for “MSNBC” to vote for both shows.

<description>&lt;p&gt;In “Uncounted Millions: The Power of Reparations,” host Trymaine Lee used the story of &lt;a href="https://www.msnbc.com/msnbc-podcast/uncounted-millions-get-free-rcna138686" target="_blank"&gt;Gabriel Coakley&lt;/a&gt; and his family to explore past and future conversations around reparations. That conversation has come to include educational institutions, many of which were built and sustained through enslavement, like the one mere blocks from Coakley’s home in Washington, DC: Georgetown University. On this special bonus episode, sponsored by &lt;a href="https://www.wkkf.org/" target="_blank"&gt;the W.K. Kellogg Foundation&lt;/a&gt;, Into America dives into racial reconciliation and the GU272. Trymaine speaks with descendants of the 272 enslaved people sold to save the university, and the Jesuit leader trying to work towards repair. What can these conversations teach us about what, if anything, can be done to heal the past?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;If you want more of Into America &amp; you’re close to New York, check out a live event at the 92nd Street Y on May 29. We’ll continue the conversation on reparations with special guests &lt;a href="https://nikolehannahjones.com/" target="_blank"&gt;Nikole Hannah-Jones&lt;/a&gt; and &lt;a href="https://www.google.com/search?gs_ssp=eJzj4tVP1zc0zMlOKUoyLqg0YPTiz81MzkhMzVHISCwqyswvAQCoiwrg&amp;q=michael+harriot&amp;rlz=1C5CHFA_enUS1019US1019&amp;oq=michael+har&amp;gs_lcrp=EgZjaHJvbWUqDQgCEC4YgwEYsQMYgAQyBggAEEUYOTINCAEQLhiDARixAxiABDINCAIQLhiDARixAxiABDINCAMQABiDARixAxiABDINCAQQLhiDARixAxiABDINCAUQLhiDARixAxiABDIKCAYQLhixAxiABDIQCAcQLhivARjHARiABBiOBTIHCAgQLhiABDIHCAkQABiPAtIBCDI3NDdqMGo0qAIAsAIA&amp;sourceid=chrome&amp;ie=UTF-8" target="_blank"&gt;Michael Harriot&lt;/a&gt;. For more information, go to &lt;a href="https://www.92ny.org/events" target="_blank"&gt;92NY.org/events&lt;/a&gt;.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;And, some great news: &lt;a href="https://www.msnbc.com/intoamerica" target="_blank"&gt;Into America&lt;/a&gt; and our colleagues at &lt;a href="https://www.msnbc.com/prosecuting-donald-trump" target="_blank"&gt;Prosecuting Donald Trump&lt;/a&gt; have been nominated for Webby Awards! And MSNBC needs your help to win. Check out &lt;a href="https://vote.webbyawards.com/PublicVoting#/2024/advertising-media-pr/advertising-campaigns/best-video-campaign" target="_blank"&gt;vote.webbyawards.com&lt;/a&gt; and search for “MSNBC” to vote for both shows.&lt;/p&gt;
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In a bonus episode of Uncounted Millions, Trymaine Lee continues the conversation on reparations by asking what more is owed to the descendants of 272 enslaved people sold by Georgetown. Sponsored by the W.K. Kellogg Foundation.  

Uncounted Millions BONUS: The GU272

As a bonus for listeners, we’re sharing the first episode of a special series from “Why Is This Happening? The Chris Hayes Podcast,” called “WITHpod 2024: The Stakes.” For the first time since 1892, we have an election in which both candidates have presidential records. It’s a unique chance to take a hard look at what both Joe Biden and Donald Trump have actually done as president. Chris Hayes talks to experts about both candidates’ records on specific policy areas. This week, Aaron Reichlin-Melnick, policy director at the American Immigration Council, joins to unpack immigration policies under Trump vs. Biden, the state of the asylum system, and more. Follow and listen to the whole series: <a href="https://link.chtbl.com/withpod_tsfd">https://link.chtbl.com/withpod_tsfd</a>

<description>&lt;p&gt;As a bonus for listeners, we’re sharing the first episode of a special series from “Why Is This Happening? The Chris Hayes Podcast,” called “WITHpod 2024: The Stakes.” For the first time since 1892, we have an election in which both candidates have presidential records. It’s a unique chance to take a hard look at what both Joe Biden and Donald Trump have actually done as president. Chris Hayes talks to experts about both candidates’ records on specific policy areas. This week, Aaron Reichlin-Melnick, policy director at the American Immigration Council, joins to unpack immigration policies under Trump vs. Biden, the state of the asylum system, and more. Follow and listen to the whole series: &lt;a href="https://link.chtbl.com/withpod_tsfd"&gt;https://link.chtbl.com/withpod_tsfd&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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As a bonus for listeners, we’re sharing the first episode of a special series from “Why Is This Happening? The Chris Hayes Podcast,” called “WITHpod 2024: The Stakes.” For the first time since 1892, we have an election in which both candidates have presidential records. It’s a unique chance to take a hard look at what both Joe Biden and Donald Trump have actually done as president. Chris Hayes talks to experts about both candidates’ records on specific policy areas. This week, Aaron Reichlin-Melnick, policy director at the American Immigration Council, joins to unpack immigration policies under Trump vs. Biden, the state of the asylum system, and more. Follow and listen to the whole series: https://link.chtbl.com/withpod_tsfd

BONUS: The Stakes of Immigration with Aaron Reichlin-Melnick

Can reparations be a reality for all Black Americans? In <a href="https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/new-bill-to-create-new-york-reparations-commission/4966308/" target="_blank">New York</a>, the state Gabriel Coakley’s descendants now call home, the governor has signed a bill creating a task force to consider reparations for formerly enslaved people. It’s the <a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/19/nyregion/reparations-new-york-slavery.html" target="_blank">third state</a> to do so. But beyond local considerations, does this debate have real momentum at a national level? In the final episode of “Uncounted Millions: The Power of Reparations,” we take a look at public opinion <a href="https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2022/11/28/black-and-white-americans-are-far-apart-in-their-views-of-reparations-for-slavery/" target="_blank">polling</a> on reparations, along with the <a href="https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/reparations-slavery-are-only-way-fix-america-s-racial-wealth-ncna1225251" target="_blank">dollars and cents</a> of making this a reality across the country. And we return to Gabriel Coakley’s descendants to understand how the family plans to keep alive the legacy of service and Black liberation he started a century and a half ago.As we round out our series, Trymaine is joined by: the Coakley-Flateau family, Duke University professor <a href="https://sanford.duke.edu/profile/william-darity/" target="_blank">Dr. William Darity</a>, New York <a href="https://www.nysenate.gov/senators/zellnor-myrie" target="_blank">Senator Zellnor Myrie</a>, Amherst political science professor <a href="https://polsci.umass.edu/people/tatishe-m-nteta" target="_blank">Tatishe Nteta,</a> and archivist <a href="https://www.lopezmatthewsjr.com/about-me" target="_blank">Dr. Lopez Matthews.</a>

<description>&lt;p&gt;Can reparations be a reality for all Black Americans? In &lt;a href="https://www.nbcnewyork.com/news/local/new-bill-to-create-new-york-reparations-commission/4966308/" target="_blank"&gt;New York&lt;/a&gt;, the state Gabriel Coakley’s descendants now call home, the governor has signed a bill creating a task force to consider reparations for formerly enslaved people. It’s the &lt;a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2023/12/19/nyregion/reparations-new-york-slavery.html" target="_blank"&gt;third state&lt;/a&gt; to do so. But beyond local considerations, does this debate have real momentum at a national level? In the final episode of “Uncounted Millions: The Power of Reparations,” we take a look at public opinion &lt;a href="https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2022/11/28/black-and-white-americans-are-far-apart-in-their-views-of-reparations-for-slavery/" target="_blank"&gt;polling&lt;/a&gt; on reparations, along with the &lt;a href="https://www.nbcnews.com/think/opinion/reparations-slavery-are-only-way-fix-america-s-racial-wealth-ncna1225251" target="_blank"&gt;dollars and cents&lt;/a&gt; of making this a reality across the country. And we return to Gabriel Coakley’s descendants to understand how the family plans to keep alive the legacy of service and Black liberation he started a century and a half ago.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;As we round out our series, Trymaine is joined by: the Coakley-Flateau family, Duke University professor &lt;a href="https://sanford.duke.edu/profile/william-darity/" target="_blank"&gt;Dr. William Darity&lt;/a&gt;, New York &lt;a href="https://www.nysenate.gov/senators/zellnor-myrie" target="_blank"&gt;Senator Zellnor Myrie&lt;/a&gt;, Amherst political science professor &lt;a href="https://polsci.umass.edu/people/tatishe-m-nteta" target="_blank"&gt;Tatishe Nteta,&lt;/a&gt; and archivist &lt;a href="https://www.lopezmatthewsjr.com/about-me" target="_blank"&gt;Dr. Lopez Matthews.&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;
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The Coakleys have showed us what could have been had Black Americans been granted reparations. Will that ever happen? 

Uncounted Millions: Reparations Now

As the Coakley and Flateau families change and grow through time, so too does the conversation on reparations for Black Americans. In this episode of “Uncounted Millions: The Power of Reparations,” both families move west to California, ultimately converging. Soon after, the <a href="https://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/-know-possible-japanese-americans-join-fight-reparations-rcna11256">Japanese Redress movement</a> begins to shape the modern push for reparations in Black America.  In part 4, Trymaine is joined by: attorney <a href="https://www.minamitamaki.com/attorneys/donaldtamaki/">Don Tamaki</a>, activist <a href="https://tsuruforsolidarity.org/emily-akpan-new-york/">Emily Akpan</a> and California <a href="https://lee.house.gov/">Congresswoman Barbara Lee</a>.

<description>&lt;p&gt;As the Coakley and Flateau families change and grow through time, so too does the conversation on reparations for Black Americans. In this episode of “Uncounted Millions: The Power of Reparations,” both families move west to California, ultimately converging. Soon after, the &lt;a href="https://www.nbcnews.com/news/nbcblk/-know-possible-japanese-americans-join-fight-reparations-rcna11256"&gt;Japanese Redress movement&lt;/a&gt; begins to shape the modern push for reparations in Black America.  &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;In part 4, Trymaine is joined by: attorney &lt;a href="https://www.minamitamaki.com/attorneys/donaldtamaki/"&gt;Don Tamaki&lt;/a&gt;, activist &lt;a href="https://tsuruforsolidarity.org/emily-akpan-new-york/"&gt;Emily Akpan&lt;/a&gt; and California &lt;a href="https://lee.house.gov/"&gt;Congresswoman Barbara Lee&lt;/a&gt;. &lt;/p&gt;
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The Coakleys and the Flateaus converge out West. As they do, a seismic shift in American racial policy is taking root, leading to reparations for Japanese Americans.

Uncounted Millions: The Cost of Healing

Gabriel Coakley was an exception. But what about the rule? In episode 3 of “Uncounted Millions: The Power of Reparations,” we’ll travel with Coakley’s descendants as they attempt to learn about the other side of their family, the Flateaus. Most Black families were met with nothing but their freedom after the Civil War and, in some cases, <a href="https://www.msnbc.com/podcast/into-america/reconstructed-search-promised-land-n1289244" target="_blank">barely even that</a>. Like most, the Flateau family didn’t enter this new era with any sort of government payment for past wrongs. So how did they build a life for themselves? Trymaine joins the family for a trip to Louisiana to unearth some of this history. Along the way, they also get to the bottom of a big family secret.This episode, Trymaine is joined by: Adele and Desmond Flateau, historian <a href="https://www.xula.edu/directory/people/ssinegal.html" target="_blank">Dr. Sharlene Sinegal-DeCuir,</a> and a series of Louisiana archivists he meets along the way.

<description>&lt;p&gt;Gabriel Coakley was an exception. But what about the rule? In episode 3 of “Uncounted Millions: The Power of Reparations,” we’ll travel with Coakley’s descendants as they attempt to learn about the other side of their family, the Flateaus. Most Black families were met with nothing but their freedom after the Civil War and, in some cases, &lt;a href="https://www.msnbc.com/podcast/into-america/reconstructed-search-promised-land-n1289244" target="_blank"&gt;barely even that&lt;/a&gt;. Like most, the Flateau family didn’t enter this new era with any sort of government payment for past wrongs. So how did they build a life for themselves? Trymaine joins the family for a trip to Louisiana to unearth some of this history. Along the way, they also get to the bottom of a big family secret.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;This episode, Trymaine is joined by: Adele and Desmond Flateau, historian &lt;a href="https://www.xula.edu/directory/people/ssinegal.html" target="_blank"&gt;Dr. Sharlene Sinegal-DeCuir,&lt;/a&gt; and a series of Louisiana archivists he meets along the way. &lt;/p&gt;
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Coakley’s descendants travel to Louisiana to learn about the other branch of their family tree.

Uncounted Millions: Things Fall Apart

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