In 2021, the book Electrify offered one of the most detailed, practical maps yet for America’s decarbonization. It went viral in climate &amp; policy circles and helped shape the Inflation Reduction Act. Then one of its co-writers, Sam Calisch, took what he thought was the most impactful next step: start a company.
Copper puts batteries on the grid by building them into home appliances, starting with an induction stove that plugs into a standard outlet. No electrician required.
Today on the show, Sam and his co-writer and mentor Saul Griffith on the ideas in the book, the setbacks since, and what it will take to keep decarbonization moving, one kitchen at a time.

In 2021, the book Electrify offered one of the most detailed, practical maps yet for America’s decarbonization. It went viral in climate & policy circles and helped shape the Inflation Reduction Act. Then one of its co-writers, Sam Calisch, took what he thought was the most impactful next step: start a company.

Copper puts batteries on the grid by building them into home appliances, starting with an induction stove that plugs into a standard outlet. No electrician required.

Today on the show, Sam and his co-writer and mentor Saul Griffith on the ideas in the book, the setbacks since, and what it will take to keep decarbonization moving, one kitchen at a time.

What could happen if we electrified everything? Sam Calisch & His Mentor Saul Griffith

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