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#491 – OpenClaw: The Viral AI Agent that Broke the Internet – Peter Steinberger
FEB 12, 2026-1 MIN
#491 – OpenClaw: The Viral AI Agent that Broke the Internet – Peter Steinberger
FEB 12, 2026-1 MIN
Description
<p>Peter Steinberger is the creator of OpenClaw, an open-source AI agent framework that’s the fastest-growing project in GitHub history.<br />
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<p><b>Transcript:</b><br />
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<p><b>EPISODE LINKS:</b><br />
Peter’s X: <a href="https://x.com/steipete">https://x.com/steipete</a><br />
Peter’s GitHub: <a href="https://github.com/steipete">https://github.com/steipete</a><br />
Peter’s Website: <a href="https://steipete.com">https://steipete.com</a><br />
Peter’s LinkedIn: <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/steipete">https://www.linkedin.com/in/steipete</a><br />
OpenClaw Website: <a href="https://openclaw.ai">https://openclaw.ai</a><br />
OpenClaw GitHub: <a href="https://github.com/openclaw/openclaw">https://github.com/openclaw/openclaw</a><br />
OpenClaw Discord: <a href="https://discord.gg/openclaw">https://discord.gg/openclaw</a></p>
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<p><b>OUTLINE:</b><br />
(00:00) – Introduction<br />
(03:51) – Sponsors, Comments, and Reflections<br />
(15:29) – OpenClaw origin story<br />
(18:48) – Mind-blowing moment<br />
(28:15) – Why OpenClaw went viral<br />
(32:12) – Self-modifying AI agent<br />
(36:57) – Name-change drama<br />
(54:07) – Moltbook saga<br />
(1:02:26) – OpenClaw security concerns<br />
(1:11:07) – How to code with AI agents<br />
(1:42:02) – Programming setup<br />
(1:48:45) – GPT Codex 5.3 vs Claude Opus 4.6<br />
(1:57:52) – Best AI agent for programming<br />
(2:19:52) – Life story and career advice<br />
(2:23:49) – Money and happiness<br />
(2:27:41) – Acquisition offers from OpenAI and Meta<br />
(2:44:51) – How OpenClaw works<br />
(2:56:09) – AI slop<br />
(3:02:13) – AI agents will replace 80% of apps<br />
(3:10:50) – Will AI replace programmers?<br />
(3:22:50) – Future of OpenClaw community</p>