Once widely banned, raw milk consumption is on the rise and states are repealing their bans. No one’s happier about that than the far right. How did we get here?NOTE: In the retelling of Pasteur’s early pasteurization, Aubrey misspoke! The culprit wasn’t lactic yeast, it was lactic acid bacteria. Sorry for the slip up!Support us:<ul><li><a href='https://www.patreon.com/maintenancephase'>Hear bonus episodes on Patreon</a></li><li><a href='https://www.yrfatfriendfilm.com/'>Watch Aubrey&apos;s documentary</a></li><li><a href='https://bookshop.org/p/books/you-just-need-to-lose-weight-and-19-other-myths-about-fat-people-aubrey-gordon/18405362?ean=9780807006474'>Buy Aubrey&apos;s book</a></li><li><a href='https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/if-books-could-kill/id1651876897'>Listen to Mike&apos;s other podcast</a></li><li><a href='http://tee.pub/lic/maintenancephase'>Get Maintenance Phase T-shirts, stickers and more</a></li></ul>Links!<ul><li><a href='https://www.markkurlansky.com/books/milk-a-ten-thousand-year-food-fracas/'>Milk!: A 10,000 Year Food Fracas</a></li><li><a href='https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0362028X22067059'>U.S. Consumer survey</a></li><li><a href='https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0362028X22128449?via%3Dihub'>The Effects of Pasteurization on Vitamins</a></li><li><a href='https://www.sciencehistory.org/stories/magazine/the-lingering-heat-over-pasteurized-milk/'>Lingering Heat over Pasteurized Milk</a></li><li><a href='https://www.pbs.org/newshour/health/bird-flu-virus-has-been-found-in-raw-milk-heres-a-reminder-of-how-pasteurization-improves-safety'>How pasteurization improves safety</a></li><li><a href='https://www.nytimes.com/1858/05/22/archives/swill-milk-and-infant-mortality.html'>Swill-Milk and Infant Mortality</a></li><li>Alta Dena (<a href='https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1987-07-11-me-491-story.html'>Court case 1</a>, <a href='https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1985-08-28-me-25038-story.html'>Court case 2</a>, <a href='https://www.laweekly.com/raw-milk-controversy-nothing-new/'>Alta Dena&apos;s raw milk history</a>)</li><li><a href='https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2025/01/raw-farm-raw-milk-mark-mcafee/'>A Raw Milk Magnate Has Spent Years Fighting Public Health Agencies</a></li><li><a href='https://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/08/dining/08raw.html'>Should This Milk Be Legal?</a></li><li><a href='https://www.goerie.com/story/news/politics/2025/03/27/how-did-this-amish-milk-farmer-become-a-maga-icon/81160544007/'>The Amish farmer who ignited outrage over raw milk</a></li><li><a href='https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/raw-milk-explained-tiktok-influencers-health-1235042145/'>Why Are People Promoting Raw Milk?</a> </li><li><a href='https://archive.nytimes.com/dinersjournal.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/08/27/the-quest-for-raw-milk/'>The Quest for Raw Milk</a></li><li><a href='https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/13/magazine/raw-milk-danger-benefits.html'>Some Raw Truths About Raw Milk</a></li><li><a href='https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/24/business/raw-milk-bird-flu-infowars-disinformation.html'>Right Wing Commentators Are Pushing Misinformation</a></li><li><a href='https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/how-raw-milk-went-from-hippie-to-maga.html'>How Raw Milk Went From Hippie to MAGA</a> </li><li><a href='https://apnews.com/article/bird-flu-raw-milk-h5n1-6398d2eda26eb41797ee2700cf9d036b'>Here&apos;s why raw milk drinkers need to be concerned about bird flu</a></li><li><a href='https://www.cbsnews.com/news/bird-flu-raw-milk-influencers-fda-warning/'>Influencers promote raw milk </a></li></ul>Thanks to <a href='https://freesound.org/people/Doctor_Dreamchip/'>Doctor Dreamchip</a> for our lovely theme song!<a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/maintenancephase">Support the show</a>

<description>&lt;p&gt;Once widely banned, raw milk consumption is on the rise and states are repealing their bans. No one’s happier about that than the far right. How did we get here?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;NOTE: In the retelling of Pasteur’s early pasteurization, Aubrey misspoke! The culprit wasn’t lactic yeast, it was lactic acid bacteria. Sorry for the slip up!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Support us:&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.patreon.com/maintenancephase'&gt;Hear bonus episodes on Patreon&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.yrfatfriendfilm.com/'&gt;Watch Aubrey&amp;apos;s documentary&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href='https://bookshop.org/p/books/you-just-need-to-lose-weight-and-19-other-myths-about-fat-people-aubrey-gordon/18405362?ean=9780807006474'&gt;Buy Aubrey&amp;apos;s book&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href='https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/if-books-could-kill/id1651876897'&gt;Listen to Mike&amp;apos;s other podcast&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href='http://tee.pub/lic/maintenancephase'&gt;Get Maintenance Phase T-shirts, stickers and more&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;b&gt;Links!&lt;/b&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.markkurlansky.com/books/milk-a-ten-thousand-year-food-fracas/'&gt;Milk!: A 10,000 Year Food Fracas&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0362028X22067059'&gt;U.S. Consumer survey&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0362028X22128449?via%3Dihub'&gt;The Effects of Pasteurization on Vitamins&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.sciencehistory.org/stories/magazine/the-lingering-heat-over-pasteurized-milk/'&gt;Lingering Heat over Pasteurized Milk&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.pbs.org/newshour/health/bird-flu-virus-has-been-found-in-raw-milk-heres-a-reminder-of-how-pasteurization-improves-safety'&gt;How pasteurization improves safety&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.nytimes.com/1858/05/22/archives/swill-milk-and-infant-mortality.html'&gt;Swill-Milk and Infant Mortality&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Alta Dena (&lt;a href='https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1987-07-11-me-491-story.html'&gt;Court case 1&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href='https://www.latimes.com/archives/la-xpm-1985-08-28-me-25038-story.html'&gt;Court case 2&lt;/a&gt;, &lt;a href='https://www.laweekly.com/raw-milk-controversy-nothing-new/'&gt;Alta Dena&amp;apos;s raw milk history&lt;/a&gt;)&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2025/01/raw-farm-raw-milk-mark-mcafee/'&gt;A Raw Milk Magnate Has Spent Years Fighting Public Health Agencies&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.nytimes.com/2007/08/08/dining/08raw.html'&gt;Should This Milk Be Legal?&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.goerie.com/story/news/politics/2025/03/27/how-did-this-amish-milk-farmer-become-a-maga-icon/81160544007/'&gt;The Amish farmer who ignited outrage over raw milk&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.rollingstone.com/culture/culture-features/raw-milk-explained-tiktok-influencers-health-1235042145/'&gt;Why Are People Promoting Raw Milk?&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href='https://archive.nytimes.com/dinersjournal.blogs.nytimes.com/2008/08/27/the-quest-for-raw-milk/'&gt;The Quest for Raw Milk&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.nytimes.com/2025/01/13/magazine/raw-milk-danger-benefits.html'&gt;Some Raw Truths About Raw Milk&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.nytimes.com/2024/05/24/business/raw-milk-bird-flu-infowars-disinformation.html'&gt;Right Wing Commentators Are Pushing Misinformation&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href='https://nymag.com/intelligencer/article/how-raw-milk-went-from-hippie-to-maga.html'&gt;How Raw Milk Went From Hippie to MAGA&lt;/a&gt; &lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href='https://apnews.com/article/bird-flu-raw-milk-h5n1-6398d2eda26eb41797ee2700cf9d036b'&gt;Here&amp;apos;s why raw milk drinkers need to be concerned about bird flu&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href='https://www.cbsnews.com/news/bird-flu-raw-milk-influencers-fda-warning/'&gt;Influencers promote raw milk &lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p&gt;Thanks to &lt;a href='https://freesound.org/people/Doctor_Dreamchip/'&gt;Doctor Dreamchip&lt;/a&gt; for our lovely theme song!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;a rel="payment" href="https://www.patreon.com/maintenancephase"&gt;Support the show&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;</description>

Once widely banned, raw milk consumption is on the rise and states are repealing their bans. No one’s happier about that than the far right. How did we get here? NOTE: In the retelling of Pasteur’s early pasteurization, Aubrey misspoke! The culprit wasn’t lactic yeast, it was lactic acid bacteria. Sorry for the slip up! Support us: Hear bonus episodes on PatreonWatch Aubrey's documentaryBuy Aubrey's bookListen to Mike's other podcastGet Maintenance Phase T-shirts, stickers and moreLinks! Milk...

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