Mamamia Out Loud

Mia asked whether two of her kids’ friends were dating. The answer? No, they’re “talking”. Em and Keeshia try to explain the difference between talking, hooking up and dating, and somehow make it worse. Plus, Keeshia confesses she’s the friend who never checks in. With the internet now saying that’s a red flag; she's asking whether the weekly “how are you?” text is a kindness or really a chore? Today, each of our three hosts brings a dilemma to the table. We’re woefully unqualified, but we give it a red hot go. We’re so excited to be selected for Apple Podcasts Creators We Love, which recognises people who are trailblazers and leaders in podcasting. We’re featured alongside some other amazing Australian podcasters. You can check it out on Apple Podcasts or at apple.co/creatorsweloveau. Skip the 12-week waitlist. Subscribe to Mamamia today and you’ll automatically go in the draw to win a $5,000 B2C Furniture voucher to spend online or in-store on pieces available right now. Subscribe today. T&Cs apply. What To Listen To Next: Listen to our latest episode: This Is Not A Frivolous Royal Story & Why Your Life Is Chaos Right Now Listen: The Case Against Being Nice Listen: Elon Musk & The 4 Hour Documentary We Can’t Watch Listen: What The Attack On Helen Haines Has Shown Us & The Russell Brand Strategy Listen: "Major Life Update. We're Getting Divorced. Any Questions?" Listen: Andy Lee & Bec Harding’s Royal Wedding & “Can I Crash On Your Couch?” Listen: Special Episode: Perimenopause, Out Loud Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts Got questions or things you'd like Mia to talk about? Email us at [email protected] Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts. SUBSCRIBE here: Support independent women's media You can now watch our show in full length video on the Apple Podcast app - make sure your phone is up to date and we can't wait for you to see Mamamia Out Loud on Apple What to read: 'Why you need to treat your friendships like subscriptions.' 'I'd never heard of a friendship "catch-up trap". Turns out, I'm in one.' 'I lent my best friend money after her divorce. How she spent it blindsided me.' 'My best friend became my boss. I didn't expect it to feel like a break-up.' THE END BITS: Check out our merch at MamamiaOutLoud.com Keen for more? Check out the Mamamia Out Loud newsletter. GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at [email protected] Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message. Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show. Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud and on Tiktok @mamamiaoutloud Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land on which we have recorded this podcast. Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

For years, the most damning thing anyone could say about Meghan Markle was that she doesn’t speak to her dad. This week, that story took a very dark turn. Holly, Jessie and Amelia unpack the allegations against Thomas Markle (which he denies), Meghan’s response and the role the tabloids have played in all of this. Plus, if you’re having a rubbish start to the week, it could be because Mercury is now in retrograde in Scorpio! If that sentence gave you the maths-lady meme face, Amelia explains why the next ten days could change the world. Also, Leigh Campbell, host of You Beauty, posted a very serious Instagram carousel over the weekend announcing a big life decision. We break down our thoughts. And, Margot Robbie is back on Ramsay Street. Sort of. Yes even though Neighbours has vanished from our screens, it seems it could be coming back in a very different way. Plus, if you’re in our wonderful Mamamia Outlouders Facebook group, Holly wants to have a chat… If you or anyone you know needs expert help, please contact 1800 RESPECT (1800 737 732) — the National Sexual Assault, Domestic and Family Violence Counselling Service. If you are in immediate danger, call 000. We’re so excited to be selected for Apple Podcasts Creators We Love, which recognises people who are trailblazers and leaders in podcasting. We’re featured alongside some other amazing Australian podcasters. You can check it out on Apple Podcasts or at apple.co/creatorsweloveau. Get 20% off Fearless Swimwear when you become a Mamamia subscriber. You’ll also get subscriber-only podcast episodes, early listening, exclusive articles, giveaways, more partner discounts and our fitness app, MOVE, included for free. What To Listen To Next: Listen to our latest episode: The Case Against Being Nice Listen: Elon Musk & The 4 Hour Documentary We Can’t Watch Listen: What The Attack On Helen Haines Has Shown Us & The Russell Brand Strategy Listen: "Major Life Update. We're Getting Divorced. Any Questions?" Listen: Andy Lee & Bec Harding’s Royal Wedding & “Can I Crash On Your Couch?” Listen: Special Episode: Perimenopause, Out Loud Listen: The New Ways To Be Rude & “How Much Do You Earn?” Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts Get access to Very Peri, Mamamia's exclusive perimenopause series, for just $59. 25 world-leading experts, over 20 on-demand sessions, available now. We’ve sorted through the noise so you don't have to. Go to veryperi.com.au today. You hot? Same. Check out the Mamamia Out Loud newsletter. Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts. SUBSCRIBE here: Support independent women's media You can now watch our show in full length video on the Apple Podcast app - make sure your phone is up to date and we can't wait for you to see Mamamia Out Loud on Apple What to read: Meghan Markle wrote her estranged father a pointed letter. It made one thing clear. 'They're destroying the monarchy.' The 8 weirdest moments from Thomas Markle's 'tell-all' interview. Maybe you wouldn’t speak to Harry & Meghan’s families, either. 'My phone addiction was genuinely taking over my life. This is the only thing that fixed it.' THE END BITS: Check out our merch at MamamiaOutLoud.com GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at [email protected] Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message. Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show. Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud and on Tiktok @mamamiaoutloud Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land on which we have recorded this podcast. Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

Somewhere on Lily Allen’s tour schedule, between soundcheck and emails, was “test butt plug”. Holly unpacks the new merch and asks whether celebrity sex toys are still smart business, or just the new perfume. Plus, Jessie makes the case against being nice. Is keeping the peace quietly wrecking our relationships? Also, the questions to ask your friends if you actually want to know them better, and why one of them is a slippery slope. And of course our weekly reccos, including a podcast interview with a bombshell that had one of us gasping on the train, and Em’s defence of a movie nobody likes at all. We’re so excited to be selected for Apple Podcasts Creators We Love, which recognises people who are trailblazers and leaders in podcasting. We’re featured alongside some other amazing Australian podcasters. You can check it out on Apple Podcasts or at apple.co/creatorsweloveau. Skip the 12-week waitlist. Subscribe to Mamamia today and you’ll automatically go in the draw to win a $5,000 B2C Furniture voucher to spend online or in-store on pieces available right now. Subscribe today. T&Cs apply. Recommendations Em recommends Nobody Wants This season 3 AND has a defence of Digger Jessie recommends Fruit Fly by Josh Silver Holly recommends the No Filter episode with Judith Lucy. Keen for more? Check out the Mamamia Out Loud newsletter. Get access to Very Peri, Mamamia's exclusive perimenopause series, for just $59. 25 world-leading experts, over 20 on-demand sessions, available now. We’ve sorted through the noise so you don't have to. Go to veryperi.com.au today. You hot? Same. What To Listen To Next: Listen to No Filter: Judith Lucy Wrote the Book on Wellness. Then She Got Cancer Listen to our latest episode: Elon Musk & The 4 Hour Documentary We Can’t Watch Listen: What The Attack On Helen Haines Has Shown Us & The Russell Brand Strategy Listen: "Major Life Update. We're Getting Divorced. Any Questions?" Listen: Andy Lee & Bec Harding’s Royal Wedding & “Can I Crash On Your Couch?” Listen: Special Episode: Perimenopause, Out Loud Listen: The New Ways To Be Rude & “How Much Do You Earn?” Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts. SUBSCRIBE here: Support independent women's media You can now watch our show in full length video on the Apple Podcast app - make sure your phone is up to date and we can't wait for you to see Mamamia Out Loud on Apple What to read: Nobody Wants This season 2 fixes what season one got wrong. When being too nice is actually holding you back. Judith Lucy wrote a book about wellness. Then life handed her a cruel twist. 'Some of my friendships were already dead. I just hadn't said it out loud.' THE END BITS: Check out our merch at MamamiaOutLoud.com GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at [email protected] Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message. Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show. Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud and on Tiktok @mamamiaoutloud CREDITS: Hosts: Holly Wainwright, Jessie Stephens & Emily Vernem Acting Group Executive Producer: Georgie Page Executive Producer: Keeshia Pettit Video Producer: Matt Perry Associate Producer: Tessa Kotowicz Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land on which we have recorded this podcast. Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

“Thank you, you lovely people. I appreciate your help.” Those were reportedly Helen Haines’s first words to the strangers who ran to her aid outside her Wangaratta office on Monday. Jessie, Mia and Holly reflect on the woman, described by all sides of politics as the best of us, on the strangers who ran to help her, and on what female politicians are now saying about their safety. Our love goes to Helen and her family. Also, Russell Brand is on trial in London, and he and his wife Laura are posting about it every day. Holly unpacks why Britain can’t look away. Plus, forget the postcode. Mia is backing a theory that what decides how happy you are is everything within ten minutes of your front door. And, Prince Harry sat down with GQ and used the word “reconcile”. Holly nearly broke a thumb clicking. We’re so excited to be selected for Apple Podcasts Creators We Love, which recognises people who are trailblazers and leaders in podcasting. We’re featured alongside some other amazing Australian podcasters. You can check it out on Apple Podcasts or at apple.co/creatorsweloveau. Skip the 12-week waitlist. Subscribe to Mamamia today and you’ll automatically go in the draw to win a $5,000 B2C Furniture voucher to spend online or in-store on pieces available right now. Subscribe today. T&Cs apply. What To Listen To Next: Listen to The Quicky: Did Australian Politics Just Change Forever? Listen to our latest episode: "Major Life Update. We're Getting Divorced. Any Questions?" Listen: Andy Lee & Bec Harding’s Royal Wedding & “Can I Crash On Your Couch?” Listen: Special Episode: Perimenopause, Out Loud Listen: The New Ways To Be Rude & “How Much Do You Earn?” Listen: Why Is The Internet Being Unspeakably Cruel To One Woman This Week? Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts Get access to Very Peri, Mamamia's exclusive perimenopause series, for just $59. 25 world-leading experts, over 20 on-demand sessions, available now. We’ve sorted through the noise so you don't have to. Go to veryperi.com.au today. You hot? Same. Check out the Mamamia Out Loud newsletter. Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts. SUBSCRIBE here: Support independent women's media You can now watch our show in full length video on the Apple Podcast app - make sure your phone is up to date and we can't wait for you to see Mamamia Out Loud on Apple What to read: 'This wasn't an accident'. Yesterday a female MP was hit by a car in an alleged 'deliberate act'. 'I was so repulsed.' Six women have testified against Russell Brand in his rape trial. Russell Brand confessed something very bad in a profile and everyone with kids is furious. THE END BITS: Check out our merch at MamamiaOutLoud.com GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at [email protected] Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message. Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show. Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud and on Tiktok @mamamiaoutloud Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land on which we have recorded this podcast. Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.

What happens when you announce your divorce with an FAQ and forget your Instagram is public? A man named Michael found out, five million views later, and now Em needs answers. Who initiated it? Who gets custody of the pet social account? And are Millie and Bug even dogs? Plus, Holly and Jessie discuss the rise of the collab breakup post, and the one detail that tells you a split is anything but amicable. Also, Tobey Maguire stands at the altar at his ex-wife’s wedding, as the officiant. Is there a statute of limitations on being friends with your ex? And, the hosts reveal exactly how they’d handle a breakup online. Em has a very specific prediction for Holly’s feed involving the garden. We’re so excited to be selected for Apple Podcasts Creators We Love, which recognises people who are trailblazers and leaders in podcasting. We’re featured alongside some other amazing Australian podcasters. You can check it out on Apple Podcasts or at apple.co/creatorsweloveau. Skip the 12-week waitlist. Subscribe to Mamamia today and you’ll automatically go in the draw to win a $5,000 B2C Furniture voucher to spend online or in-store on pieces available right now. Subscribe today. T&Cs apply. What To Listen To Next: Listen to our latest episode: Andy Lee & Bec Harding’s Royal Wedding & “Can I Crash On Your Couch?” Listen: Special Episode: Perimenopause, Out Loud Listen: The New Ways To Be Rude & “How Much Do You Earn?” Listen: Why Is The Internet Being Unspeakably Cruel To One Woman This Week? Listen: There's Wh*res In This Gym & Harry’s Masterclass On Grief Listen: A Botched Execution & The In-Law Photo Dilemma Listen: Zoë Foster Blake’s 'FIBI' Rule Will Change Your Friendships & How To Buy Clothes That Fit You Connect your subscription to Apple Podcasts Got questions or things you'd like Mia to talk about? Email us at [email protected] Discover more Mamamia Podcasts here including the very latest episode of Parenting Out Loud, the parenting podcast for people who don't listen to... parenting podcasts. SUBSCRIBE here: Support independent women's media You can now watch our show in full length video on the Apple Podcast app - make sure your phone is up to date and we can't wait for you to see Mamamia Out Loud on Apple What to read: 'I've seen hundreds of divorces. The women who cope best all do this one thing.' 'The perks of divorce nobody talks about. But everyone should hear.' This one tip from Mel Robbins is the key to getting over your ex fast. THE END BITS: Check out our merch at MamamiaOutLoud.com Keen for more? Check out the Mamamia Out Loud newsletter. GET IN TOUCH: Feedback? We’re listening. Send us an email at [email protected] Share your story, feedback, or dilemma! Send us a voice message. Join our Facebook group Mamamia Outlouders to talk about the show. Follow us on Instagram @mamamiaoutloud and on Tiktok @mamamiaoutloud Mamamia acknowledges the Traditional Owners of the Land on which we have recorded this podcast. Become a Mamamia subscriber: https://www.mamamia.com.au/subscribe See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.