Esther and Ian explain why they are here doing this, rather than being elsewhere doing something different.Links<ul><li><a href="https://stevenkharper.com/startclosein.html">“Start Close In”</a> by <a href="https://davidwhyte.com/">David Whyte</a></li><li><a href="https://quoteinvestigator.com/2017/11/12/change-world/">“Never doubt…” quote, which is attributed to Margaret Mead rather than Rosa Luxemburg as we had said in the episode</a></li><li>Ian’s other podcasts:<ul><li><a href="https://www.whatalotofthings.com">What A Lot of Things</a> – tech nerdery</li><li><a href="https://dayspodcast.com">Days</a> – gentle mockery around of “awareness days”</li><li><a href="https://ilkley-lockdown.transistor.fm">Ilkley Lockdown</a> – interviews with Ilkley people made during the COVID pandemic</li></ul></li></ul>

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 &lt;p&gt;Esther and Ian explain why they are here doing this, rather than being elsewhere doing something different.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p&gt;&lt;strong&gt;Links&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://stevenkharper.com/startclosein.html"&gt;“Start Close In”&lt;/a&gt; by &lt;a href="https://davidwhyte.com/"&gt;David Whyte&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://quoteinvestigator.com/2017/11/12/change-world/"&gt;“Never doubt…” quote, which is attributed to Margaret Mead rather than Rosa Luxemburg as we had said in the episode&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;Ian’s other podcasts:&lt;ul&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.whatalotofthings.com"&gt;What A Lot of Things&lt;/a&gt; – tech nerdery&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://dayspodcast.com"&gt;Days&lt;/a&gt; – gentle mockery around of “awareness days”&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li&gt;&lt;a href="https://ilkley-lockdown.transistor.fm"&gt;Ilkley Lockdown&lt;/a&gt; – interviews with Ilkley people made during the COVID pandemic&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;
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Explaining Ourselves

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