How Publishers Can Win When AI Replaces the Click

This week’s episode is a little different -- because I’m the guest! I was honored to appear on The Media Copilot podcast, hosted by Pete Pachal.  Pete has spent more than two decades in tech and media, including senior roles at CoinDesk and Mashable.  Today, he teaches folks in PR, journalism and media how to keep up with AI. Pete and I covered a lot of ground: • We get into the spreadsheet I keep tracking 99 AI licensing deals — and what I’ve learned from studying them. • I share when and why I think OpenAI will settle its lawsuit with The New York Times before its IPO — and how OpenAI can help grow the Times’ business. • We dig into Yelp’s content licensing deal with OpenAI and a business model I call “licensing content to commerce” — where Yelp can turn an AI answer into revenue.  • Pete gets my take on why I believe we are far from running out of content to train AI on. • And we get into my own use of AI — including how I increased my writing productivity 8.7x for my Daily Doc newsletter recommending documentaries (without being a spammer) Now please enjoy my conversation with Pete Pachal (where, this time, he’s the one asking all the questions). Thx! Rob Kelly