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Melody or Witchcraft: Poets on Emily Dickinson & Today's Issues
Kathryn Petruccelli
Angela Narciso Torres: making do
NOV 1, 202638 MIN
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Description
The Melody or Witchcraft podcast interviews begin with a love for poetry, its craft, and a major literary ancestor: Emily Dickinson. I’m your host, Kathryn Petruccelli, a poet, workshop leader, Substacker, & former guide for the Emily Dickinson Museum in Amherst, Massachusetts.
Listen in to hear about the concentric circles of past and present. Names or poetic references are fleshed out or linked to in the show notes if not in the moment.
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Angela Narciso Torres was one of those super prepared guests! She’d kindly listened to several episodes before I got to sit down with her and I got to benefit from both her deep thinking and her gorgeous typewriter collection!
In Episode 24, Angela & I get into moving beyond grief, defining home, & she breaks down for us the idea of “bricolage” – making things from the scraps of what we have handy.
(Recorded May 26, 2026)
Angela Narciso Torres is the author of What Happens Is Neither, Blood Orange, and the chapbook, To the Bone. A graduate of the Harvard Graduate School of Education and Warren Wilson’s MFA program, she has been awarded a Pushcart Prize, a BreadLoaf Fellowship, and the Yeats Poetry Prize. Born in Brooklyn and raised in Manila, she lives in San Diego and serves as reviews editor for RHINO.
The Dickinson poem Angela chose:
To make a prairie it takes a clover and one bee,One clover, and a bee.And revery.The revery alone will do,If bees are few.
transcribed by Mabel Loomis Todd, (Fr 1779, J1755)
Late BirdAngela Narciso Torres
Count me among the noon risers who stumble,dazed and bad-haired, from the nest midday,pecking the crazed dirt for half-torn moth, pear’s white core, severed worm. I’ve never been one to trill at chink of dawn, to hop, skip, chirrup before full sun. I’m better at picking over crumbs, stitching a quiltfrom what’s left, remaindered, given upfor gone. Better at betting the careless will miss the best. Count me amongthe nightbirds who sip starlight, a guitar’sfading strains. Find me where moondust swirls in streetlamp glow and stray dogs sleep.What clings to the bone is most sweet.
Other Dickinson poems mentioned:
After great pain, a formal feeling comes—,
the Diane Seuss episode of Melody or Witchcraft that covers that poem.
Fact check, people, & concepts mentioned:
Claude Lévi-Strauss – Bricolage
From April 25, 1862 to Thomas Wentworth Higginson. Letter 261.“[Father] buys me many books but begs me not to read them for he fears they joggle the mind.”
Czesław Miłosz
Seamus Heaney
Terrance Hayes’ American Sonnets for my Past and Future Assassin
Diane Seuss’ Frank: Sonnets,
Anne of Green Gables
Read a scan of a first edition (1911) copy of The Secret Garden from the New York Public Library!
Addie Mills series
RHINO journal
Poem-a-day of Angela’s poem “Late Bird” with an “about” paragraph where Angela explains more of where it came from and the connected Shakespearean sonnet 73.
The tanka form
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