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Mixed Signals from Semafor Media
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Pangram CEO Max Spero on why human touch is about to become the scarcest thing on the internet
SEP 18, 202649 MIN
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Description
Pangram founder and CEO Max Spero joins Mixed Signals to explain how his AI detection tool actually works, and why he thinks the escalating cat-and-mouse game between AI detectors and "humanizers" is a fight worth having. Max and Ben ask Spero about how Pangram can already distinguish Claude from ChatGPT, why he built a humanizer internally and refuses to release it, and what it would actually take for a fine-tuned personal AI to fool his model.
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