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Brian "Ponch" Rivera

Reading People Rarely Works: Poker Tells & the Real OODA Loop | Zach Elwood

OCT 20, 202658 MIN

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Send us Fan Mail Reading people works far less often than the experts claim. Former professional poker player Zach Elwood explains when a behavioral read helps and why it usually doesn't. Zach Elwood wrote Reading Poker Tells, Verbal Poker Tells and Exploiting Poker Tells, and hosts People Who Read People. With Brian "Ponch" Rivera he explains why even good readers act on a tell only a couple of times in an eight-hour session, why reads that help at a poker table fail in an interrogation room, and what Tim Levine's research in Duped shows about nonverbal lie detection. He uses Gary Klein's approach to turn gut reads into named factors. Ponch ties it to John Boyd. Orientation shapes what a person perceives, and a decision meets an environment nobody controls. Elwood's lesson from poker matches it: you can't be results oriented. Zach Elwood: https://behavior-podcast.com Poker tells: https://readingpokertells.com Stay connected with No Way Out X: @NoWayOutcast | @PonchAGLX Stay connected Read the full posts: https://www.conceptualspiral.com Watch on YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@NoWayOutPodcast Listen on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/no-way-out/id1663685759 Listen on Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/5fzIKBmVR7ARosQ3I52uNC Follow the show on X: https://x.com/NoWayOutcast Follow Ponch on X: https://x.com/PonchAGLX AGLX: https://www.aglx.com