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Pondering Play and Therapy Podcast
Julie and Philippa
Unlocking the Sandbox: Therapy Through Play. A conversation with Margot Sunderland.
SEP 4, 202646 MIN
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Description
Margot Sunderland joins Philippa in this weeks episode of Pondering Play and Theraplay.
The conversation explores how “burying” in sandplay can mean different things, from hiding feelings to gaining control, and emphasizes therapist curiosity about what symbols mean for each child. It contrasts direct responses (“Does this feel like something in your life?”) with indirect, metaphor-based approaches for children who cannot or will not talk about feelings, noting metaphor can be more digestible and reduce fight/flight/freeze. A supervision example describes five-year-old Ella, who witnessed domestic violence and uses Pull-Ups while carefully disposing of them; the behavior is framed as protecting her mother from dangerous feelings. A therapeutic story about a tortoise, lilies, and an angry cat models empathy and safety, inviting sandplay responses to process rage and unmet needs. The speakers discuss naming feelings, creating narrative, and training/resources offered via the Institute for Arts in Therapy and Education and related books and cards.
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