394: Taylor Swift's “The Encore” + RHONY’s Erin Lichy Addresses Katrina Comment

A candid breakdown of Taylor Swift's four new songs, her music video, and where Lauren and Chan really land after multiple listens. Plus, Erin Lichy of Real Housewives of New York sits down for a chat about all things reality TV and life behind the scenes. Including but not limited to: her drama with Jessel, the Hailey and Claudia Oshry saga, motherhood with four kids in the city, her flooded Hamptons house, and building Mezcalum with her husband Abe. (00:02:39) 🎵 TLOAS Encore — midnight listen leaves reheated Taylorisms and a Cleveland sonic crime verdict (00:07:55) 🎬 Patient Zero — Patient Zero's ex-focused lyrics and the Law and Order-esque music video (00:11:12) 🏈 Cleveland! & the Haters — Cleveland's pep-rally chants and a love song aimed at the haters (00:15:18) 🌆 Pink Clouding & Babylon — Babylon's small-town message clashing with a Madison Square Garden wedding (00:18:35) 🥗 Ponzi Scheme Word Salad — the one-man Ponzi scheme label that made no logical sense (00:19:53) 📺 Authenticity on Reality TV — why refusing to fake friendships beats memorizing lies on reality TV (00:23:50) 🍿 Jessel Drama Breakdown — the popcorn ceiling snickering and Jessel's claim she made Tribeca viral (00:28:21) 🍓 Hailey Trolling Claudia Oshry — Hailey's years of unsolicited DMs to Claudia Oshry about her body (00:30:57) 💔 Hailey's Homewrecking Allegations — the homewrecking accusation, food metaphors, and a missing apology (00:33:33) ✈️ Former Cast and Brynn — why Brynn no longer speaks to the cast and the private island truth (00:35:09) 👶 Raising Four Kids in NYC — raising four kids in the city and pushback against motherhood negativity (00:43:10) 🍄 Plant Medicine with Abe — mushrooms, DJ sets, and connecting without getting drunk together (00:44:50) 💑 Staying Connected in Marriage — spontaneous dinners beating rigid date nights for busy couples (00:46:37) 🏥 ER Visits and Hypochondria — a ChatGPT-fueled 4:30am ER trip over feared deep vein thrombosis (00:49:07) 🗽 Living in New York Forever — lifelong high school friends and why reality TV isn't real fame (00:51:38) 🏗️ House Construction Stress — the architect's Katrina comparison she regrets repeating on air (00:54:09) 🌊 House Flood Disaster — black mold forcing keepsakes into a dumpster after a burst pipe (00:57:23) 🥂 Working with Your Partner — building Mezcalum through a spirits downturn while staying married (01:04:26) 📓 JournalSpeak by Nicole Sachs — Nicole Sachs' JournalSpeak for raging out and throwing it away Hero Bread: Go to https://www.hero.co and use code POP at checkout for 10% off. HERS Weight Loss: Visit https://www.forhers.com/APOLOGISTS to access personalized, affordable care for weight loss, hair, menopause, and more. Macy’s: Shop now in stores or at https://www.macys.com. Ladder: If you have an iPhone, head to https://www.ladder.fit/POP and take a quick quiz to find your perfect Ladder plan. Use my link and get a free 7-day trial with NO credit card, and $10 off your first month if you join. Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.