Wax On, Wax Off: What AI Can't Teach a 14-Year-Old

The Pragmatic AI Podcast is sponsored by Tighten.  T-I-G-H-T-E-N. We will take your AI ideas, prototypes or even vibe-coded apps, and we'll take them to production. Scalable and secure. Check us out at tighten.com. Matt Stauffer sits down with Bill Van Loo — high school engineering educator, creative technologist, and independent electronic musician — for a clear-eyed conversation about using AI in the real world. Bill describes himself as a longtime skeptic who spent a "summer of AI learning" and came out the other side with a practical framework rather than hype. They dig into the difference between throwing a problem at AI and getting it to build you a tool, why Bill's laser-cutter workflow became his turning point, and the three ways he thinks about AI: as a thinking partner, a way to handle tedious work, and a way to build things. The conversation also wrestles with the harder questions: how to prepare students who are anxious and often anti-AI, how to protect learning instead of offloading it, and where a working artist chooses to keep the machines out entirely. Matt Stauffer on X - https://x.com/mattstauffer Tighten Website - https://tighten.com/ Bill Van Loo Website - http://billvanloo.com/ Bill Van Loo on Instagram - http://instagram.com/billvanloo Bill Van Loo on LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/bill-van-loo Matt Laracon US Talk - https://youtu.be/au9bIQsrh8k?si=WoJ078glcr9CCnv7 ----- Editing and transcription sponsored by Tighten - https://tighten.com/