<img width="150" height="150" src="https://roysreport.com/wp-content/uploads/2026/10/Facebook_Email-BGD-22-150x150.jpg" class="webfeedsFeaturedVisual wp-post-image" alt="" style="float: right; margin-left: 15px;" link_thumbnail="" decoding="async" />Show Transcript After hearing pastors Josh Howerton and Josh McPherson claim on a podcast that their job is to “govern, not pastor” — and that accountability makes them “nervous” — podcaster Alisa Childers, took them to task. Childers claimed the men had expressed a “defining feature of the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR)” — that the [&#8230;]

Show Transcript After hearing pastors Josh Howerton and Josh McPherson claim on a podcast that their job is to “govern, not pastor” — and that accountability makes them “nervous” — podcaster Alisa Childers, took them to task. Childers claimed the men had

Show Transcript After hearing pastors Josh Howerton and Josh McPherson claim on a podcast that their job is to “govern, not pastor” — and that accountability makes them “nervous” — podcaster Alisa Childers, took them to task. Childers claimed the men had expressed a “defining feature of the New Apostolic Reformation (NAR)” — that the [&#8230;]

Govern, not Pastor?

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