Sales is NOT a Dirty Word

Aleasha Bahr

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Are you a DFY service provider who wants to convert over 50% of your sales conversations without acting like a douchebag? Then this is for you. In this value packed podcast, creator of the Black Sheep Sales Method™, Aleasha Bahr, brings her signature humor and ”keeping it real” sass to deliver a powerful blend of actionable solo sales episodes and expert interviews. In her solo episodes, she shares easy-to-implement sales strategy that will catapult your sales without pressure, pitching or pretending to be someone else. In her expert interviews, she carefully curates only the most bad ass black sheep guests to share their refreshing, unconventional approaches to all things business, mindset and life. Aleasha and her clients regularly convert 80% of their calls and show you how to do the same with the Black Sheep Sales Method™ - ”Because if it’s a fit, it’s a fact and there’s no selling involved.”

Recent Episodes

NOV 12, 2026
How to Make Sales Conversations Feel Natural & Not Sleazy
The fastest way to make sales feel sleazy is to announce that the real conversation is over. One minute, two people are talking normally. Then the seller sets an agenda, takes control, and begins collecting answers for the pitch waiting at the end. We have been trained to view that structure as the golden standard. It’s very familiar and that is why buyers immediately feel like they’re being sold when you use it. It also doesn’t mimic any kind of natural conversation you ever have in your life. In this episode of Sales Is NOT a Dirty Word, I’m looking at the dated rules that make sales calls feel unnatural, even when the seller genuinely wants to help. Why does rapport disappear the moment discovery begins? Why are sellers encouraged to withhold their perspective until the pitch? And why do we expect buyers to stay engaged while one person talks at them for several uninterrupted minutes? I also explore what becomes possible when the entire sales conversation operates like an actual conversational exchange. Both people take turns speaking in a cadence that resembles every other natural conversation you have in your life. In this format, the buyer gets to process information while it is relevant. Questions create clarity instead of pressure. If your sales process requires you to stop communicating like a normal person, the discomfort may be feeling is valid and this alternative approach could make a world of difference for you. KEY POINTS WE COVER The exact moment many sales calls stop feeling natural Why traditional discovery can put buyers on the defensive What sellers miss when they save every useful insight for the pitch Why buyers retain so little from long, uninterrupted presentations How a genuine exchange changes discovery, pitching, and objections If the same conversational behavior would make someone avoid you at a party, why are we still calling it a sales best practice? WORK WITH BLACK SHEEP SALES BUILD A SALES PROCESS PEOPLE ACTUALLY WANT TO PARTICIPATE IN A polished script cannot rescue a sales process that makes buyers feel managed, interrogated, or talked at. Black Sheep Sales designs and implements Signature Fit Sales Systems built around your business, your buyers, and the way your team communicates best. Create a sales process that earns trust without forcing the conversation: https://blacksheepsales.com/ YOUR SALES SCRIPT HAS HAD ENOUGH AIRTIME If selling starts to feel unnatural the moment you enter a sales call, Black Sheep Sales will show you another way. The book breaks down a conversational sales method that helps buyers feel understood, keeps both people engaged, and removes the pressure to perform a seven-minute monologue disguised as a pitch. Get your copy here: https://tinyurl.com/blacksheepsalesbook TIMESTAMPS 00:44 Why sales feels sleazy in the first place01:33 The rhythm every natural conversation follows02:47 The moment rapport gets interrupted03:39 When discovery starts feeling like an interrogation04:52 Why buyers struggle to feel psychologically safe05:46 Introducing a more conversational discovery approach07:13 Making buyers feel heard while the information is fresh09:46 Why the traditional pitch carries too much pressure10:53 What buyers retain from a long sales presentation13:43 Handling objections without taking over the conversation14:35 What changes when sales feels like a genuine exchange15:29 Relearning sales after years of traditional training #SalesTraining #SalesConversations #ConversationalSelling #DiscoveryCalls #SalesProcess #SalesStrategy #EthicalSales #B2BSales #SalesPsychology #ObjectionHandling #SalesPitch #ConsultativeSelling #BlackSheepSales #SalesIsNotADirtyWord
16 MIN
OCT 29, 2026
How to Avoid Getting Burned by a Service Provider
Too many people are burned by service providers - it’s almost like a right of passage at this point. Many companies are great at the sales process and terrible at the fulfillment part. This hurts everyone. So, in this episode of Sales Is NOT a Dirty Word, I’m digging into the part of buying that deserves far more attention: what you need to know before you say yes. Coaches, consultants, agencies, software providers, and other service businesses are trained to communicate their value. Some can deliver every inch of it. Others have simply become very skilled at focusing only on what you want to hear. The key to understanding whether something is actually a good investment comes down to good questions that make vague claims harder to hold up. The strongest offers can withstand scrutiny. A credible seller should be able to discuss limitations, expectations, ownership, timelines, and the clients who did not get the promised result without falling into polished generalities. This episode can and should change the questions you ask before your next significant investment, especially when everything sounds convincing and you are already halfway to yes. KEY POINTS WE COVER: The questions buyers should ask before signing How persuasive sales language can disguise what you’re actually purchasing The types of evasive answers that are red flags The details that deserve clarity while you still have leverage Why discernment belongs in every buying decision SELL THE WAY YOU WISH YOU HAD BEEN SOLD TO If this episode reminded you of every vague promise and expensive disappointment you have encountered as a buyer, take that standard back to your own sales process. Black Sheep Sales helps businesses build a detailed, repeatable sales system grounded in fit, transparency, and realistic expectations. Your prospects understand what they are buying, your team knows how to sell it, and fewer nightmare clients make it through the door. Build a sales process that remains credible after the contract is signed: https://blacksheepsales.com/ MAKE YOUR SALES PROCESS WORTH SAYING YES TO A strong sales conversation can open the door. What you deliver afterward determines whether people trust you, refer you, and return. In Black Sheep Sales, I share a more honest, human way to sell that respects the buyer’s intelligence and builds a business people feel good choosing. Get your copy here: https://tinyurl.com/blacksheepsalesbook Key Timestamps 02:14 When excellent marketing conceals poor delivery 03:26 The question that forces sellers to discuss failure 04:41 Why generic answers deserve greater scrutiny 05:23 How ethical sellers protect buyers from a bad fit 06:28 What client complaints and cancellations can reveal 07:06 Clarifying the first 30, 60, and 90 days 07:47 Who owns the work, assets, and data when you leave 09:42 The problem hiding inside “everything is included” 10:46 Finding the provider’s genuine area of strength 11:53 What hesitation and evasiveness can tell you 12:22 Trusting your instincts and hiring slowly 13:04 Building a custom, repeatable sales system #BusinessCoaching #BusinessCoach #ConsultingServices #ServiceProvider #BusinessInvestment #DueDiligence #BuyerBeware #SalesTransparency #EthicalSales #SalesStrategy #BusinessGrowth #Entrepreneurship #SmallBusinessOwner #BlackSheepSales #SalesIsNotADirtyWord
13 MIN
OCT 15, 2026
How to Interview and Hire the Right Salesperson
Sales hires are a different type of role than anything most business owners have hired before. Unless an owner was previously in sales, it can be difficult to know what to look for. And many times, confidence is confused for competence. A history of impressive numbers appears to settle the question. Even arrogance can slip through as evidence that someone possesses the personality required to sell. But what are those signals actually measuring? A candidate may have an extraordinary track record and still be completely wrong for your business. Their results belong to a particular offer, market, company, sales process, and moment in their career. Once those conditions change, the résumé can become far less predictive than it first appeared. In this newest episode of Sales is NOT a Dirty Word, I examine the assumptions that cause business owners to misread sales candidates and make expensive hiring decisions. The traits commonly associated with great salespeople deserve more scrutiny. So do the qualities that rarely sound impressive in an interview, yet may reveal far more about how someone will sell, collaborate, and respond once the easy momentum disappears. Listen in to consider: What a candidate’s previous results can and cannot tell you Which familiar “sales personality” traits deserve closer examination The interview questions that reveal how someone thinks beneath the polished answers What compensation preferences may expose about a candidate’s expectations Hiring a salesperson requires you to see deeper than the performance happening across the interview table or the story on the resume. If you are preparing to hire a salesperson or your current team is underperforming, book a Grow Your Sales call with me. We’ll examine your sales process, compensation plan, KPIs, and the conditions your team needs to perform consistently: https://calendly.com/aleasha/salesteam-levelup You can also take the free Sales Personality Assessment to uncover your natural sales strengths and learn how to use them instead of forcing tactics that do not fit you: https://assessment.aleashabahr.com/salespersonality KEY TIMESTAMPS01:00 | How sales candidates sell business owners during the interview02:00 | Why previous sales success may not transfer to your offer03:00 | The revenue consequences of hiring someone motivated only by commission04:00 | When industry relationships disguise deteriorated sales skills05:40 | Interview questions that reveal empathy and collaboration06:20 | Why a lone-wolf salesperson can become a serious liability08:00 | What a large base salary request may reveal08:40 | Structuring commissions around the behavior your business needs10:00 | Why winging your first sales hire becomes painfully expensive11:00 | Getting support with your sales process, KPIs, and compensation plan #SalesIsNotADirtyWord #BlackSheepSales #SalesHiring #SalesRecruitment #HiringSalespeople #SalesInterview #SalesLeadership #SalesManagement #SalesTeam #SalesCompensation #CommissionStructure #SalesStrategy #BusinessGrowth #SalesCoaching #EntrepreneurPodcast
11 MIN
OCT 1, 2026
The Sales Diva: How Your "Top Performer" Could Be Poisoning Your Sales Team
Your highest-grossing salesperson may be the most expensive problem on your team. They get the best leads, extra resources, and a different set of rules. Their revenue looks too valuable to risk, so leadership keeps making exceptions. Meanwhile, the rest of the team notices. Talented salespeople stop trying. Good ideas stay buried. Resentment grows. Eventually, people leave while the person causing the damage becomes even more indispensable. In this newest episode of Sales is NOT a Dirty Word, I’m talking about the sales diva: the salesperson whose results give them enough leverage to manipulate opportunities, demand special treatment, and leave business owners feeling trapped. Their numbers may look impressive and they certainly reference them often when asking for exceptions and preferential treatment. It’s important to take a close look and ask - How much of their success comes from skill? How much comes from receiving better leads, inheriting established relationships, or claiming opportunities developed by someone else? And if one person needs every advantage to remain your top performer, what could the rest of your team accomplish with equal support? Listen in to discover: How a salesperson gradually gains enough leverage to hold a business hostage The warning signs that special treatment is damaging the rest of your team Why revenue alone cannot tell you who your strongest salesperson is What genuinely skilled salespeople bring to a team beyond closed deals A sales diva rarely becomes a serious problem overnight. The danger grows every time leadership overlooks harmful behavior to protect the revenue attached to it. So how much damage are you willing to absorb before your “top performer” becomes too expensive to keep? Book a sales call audit with me, and we’ll uncover where your sales process or team structure may be costing you revenue: https://calendly.com/aleasha/salesteam-levelup You can also take the Sales Personality Assessment to uncover your natural sales strengths and learn how to use them instead of forcing tactics that don’t fit you: https://assessment.aleashabahr.com/salespersonality Key Timestamps01:00 What a sales diva is and how someone grows into one01:40 When the business owner feels held hostage02:25 What the rest of the team sees: the favorite child effect03:15 The poison behind the scenes: lead stealing and office politics04:00 The plant analogy every sales leader needs to hear05:00 The long-tenure rep coasting on old relationships06:00 Hungry vs. entitled: what separates real top performers06:45 How sales divas drive turnover and silence good people07:45 The worst reason to favor a salesperson08:30 Prevention: what actually makes a top-performing salesperson09:40 How to get support building a win-win sales team #SalesIsNotADirtyWord #BlackSheepSales #SalesLeadership #SalesManagement #SalesTeam #TopPerformer #SalesCulture #SalesStrategy #SalesPerformance #TeamLeadership #BusinessGrowth #SalesCoaching #EmployeeRetention #RevenueGrowth #EntrepreneurPodcast
10 MIN
SEP 17, 2026
How to Turn Small Sales Into Six Figure Contracts
You just got off a great discovery call. You can already see everything you could fix, every opportunity they’re missing, and the massive result you could create together. So you put all of it into a $100,000 or $150,000 proposal, present your big vision, and wait for them to say yes. Instead, they disappear. The problem isn’t necessarily your pricing or the value of your work. A brand-new prospect simply doesn’t know if you’re full of shit yet. So, asking them to commit to a massive engagement before you’ve delivered anything means asking them to take on a level of risk most buyers aren’t comfortable with. In this newest episode of Sales is NOT a Dirty Word, I’m breaking down why ambitious proposals often stall, why emailing the proposal makes it even easier for prospects to ghost you, and how to create a smaller first offer that gives the client a real result without devaluing your expertise. Because the goal is a long term client and a big proposal - and that’s more likely to happen when you earn trust first. Listen in to discover: Why a prospect can believe in your solution and still reject the proposal What buyers are really evaluating when you ask them to approve a large investment How to create a smaller first offer without discounting or diminishing your work The discovery questions you need answered before structuring your proposal Why a well-designed first engagement can lead to longer and more profitable client relationships If your proposals keep stalling after you email them over, you probably don’t need a more persistent follow-up sequence. You need to understand what’s making the initial decision feel too risky. Book a sales call audit call with me, and we’ll find out where your sales process is losing the deal: https://calendly.com/aleasha/salesteam-levelup You can also take the Sales Personality Assessment to uncover your natural sales strengths and learn how to use them instead of forcing tactics that don’t fit you: https://assessment.aleashabahr.com/salespersonality Key Timestamps 00:00 – Why I don’t email sales proposals01:40 – The mistake behind $100K and $150K proposals02:10 – Why new prospects are afraid of getting burned02:35 – Selling one small win that can stand on its own03:15 – Why retention and upselling beat constant client acquisition04:40 – The two definitions of success your proposal must address06:00 – Why giant proposals keep great service providers from getting hired06:25 – Making the first investment easier to say yes to07:00 – What a valuable standalone offer can look like08:00 – Building an intentional upsell process08:25 – Why simple proposals convert better than buzzword-heavy decks #SalesIsNotADirtyWord #BlackSheepSales #SalesProposal #ProposalStrategy #B2BSales #SalesStrategy #SixFigureSales #ClientAcquisition #ClientRetention #Upselling #ConsultativeSelling #SalesConversion #SalesCoaching #ServiceBasedBusiness #EntrepreneurPodcast
9 MIN