Switched on Pop

The music of global girl group KATSEYE might be confusing on first listen. A less-generous read might consider their songs to be rudimentary: the lyrics are mostly nonsense, the instrumentals evoke lesser 2010s pop songs, and the aesthetic can’t decide whether it’s targeted to children or adults. However, maybe the nonsensical nature of KATSEYE is also… the point? And maybe that point is tethered to early surrealist movements of the early twentieth century? On this episode of Switched on Pop, producer Reanna makes the case to Nate that KATSEYE and ADÉLA are indicative of a larger shift in pop music, one that tethers itself to Marcel Duchamp and the dada movement. CREDITS Reanna Cruz: Producer Iris Gottlieb: Illustrator Charlie Harding: Host, Executive Producer Dion Lee: Art Director Brandon McFarland: Audio Engineer Nick Ripps: Video Editor Nate Sloan: Host Lissa Soep: Editor Zach Tenorio & Jocie Adams: Theme Composers Switched On Pop is a co-production of Vox Media Podcast Network, Vulture, and Rock Ridge Productions. Link to Charlie and Nate’s live event with Jensen McRae at USC! Songs discussed: The Lonely Island, Emma Stone – Turn Up The Beef KATSEYE – Gnarly KATSEYE – Animal KATSEYE – Hootie Frutti KATSEYE – PINKY UP Fifth Harmony – I’m In Love With a Monster Portugal. The Man – Feel It Still Britney Spears – Toxic Britney Spears – Circus Da Hool – Meet Her at the Loveparade Little Richard – Tutti Frutti ADÉLA – Ain’t In La Miley Cyrus – We Can’t Stop ADÉLA – Nicole Kidman Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

For the 500th(!) episode of Switched on Pop, Charlie and Nate try to answer the question that has stumped critics and philosophers since the dawn of sound: does bad music exist? Their quest to answer something so nebulous leads them through the annals of taste, and in the process, they recruit several other critics and journalists to give their two cents on the topic. Can things actually be bad, and if so, how do we define them? CREDITS Reanna Cruz: Producer Iris Gottlieb: Illustrator Charlie Harding: Host, Executive Producer Dion Lee: Art Director Brandon McFarland: Audio Engineer Nick Ripps: Video Editor Nate Sloan: Host Lissa Soep: Editor Zach Tenorio & Jocie Adams: Theme Composers Switched On Pop is a co-production of Vox Media Podcast Network, Vulture, and Rock Ridge Productions. Links: ⁠⁠Newsletter⁠⁠ Songs discussed: Kristin Chenoweth, “Taylor the Latte Boy” Komar and Melamid & Dave Soldier, “The Most Unwanted Song" Pyotr Ilyich Tchaikovsky, "Violin Concerto in D major, Op. 35: III. Finale. Allegro vivacissimo" Johann Strauss II, The Blue Danube" Johann Sebastian Bach, "The Well-Tempered Clavier No. 2: Prelude and Fugue in C minor" Pete Rock & CL Smooth, "They Reminisce Over You (T.R.O.Y.)" Lil Yachty, "1 Night" Sam Laxton, Lonskii, “Adagio For Strings” Daft Punk, Pharrell Williams, Nile Rodgers, “Get Lucky” Florence Foster Jenkins, "Queen of the Night’s Aria" BB King, Eric Clapton, “Riding With the King” Paul McCartney, "Temporary Secretary" The Beatles, "Here Comes the Sun" Paul McCartney, "Wonderful Christmastime" Lou Reed, "Who Am I? (Tripitena’s Song)" Insane Clown Posse, "Miracles" Primus, "DMV" Iggy Azalea ft. Charli xcx, "Fancy" The Killers, "Human" Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

One year after the release of her twelfth studio album The Life of a Showgirl, Taylor Swift is back with an encore. Specifically, The Encore, four tracks that have polarized critics and Swifties alike, from the country-esque number one hit “Patient Zero” to her ode to married Ohioan bliss, “Cleveland!” For some, the new songs lean into Swift’s worst writing impulses. But for others, including our hosts (and resident Swiftologists) Charlie and Nate, the tracks call back to earlier eras of Swift’s songwriting, and perhaps evoke more nuanced discussion about what it means to release music as the biggest artist in the world. The question is: are we ready for it? CREDITS Reanna Cruz: Producer Iris Gottlieb: Illustrator Charlie Harding: Host, Executive Producer Dion Lee: Art Director Brandon McFarland: Audio Engineer Nick Ripps: Video Editor Nate Sloan: Host Lissa Soep: Editor Zach Tenorio & Jocie Adams: Theme Composers Switched On Pop is a co-production of Vox Media Podcast Network, Vulture, and Rock Ridge Productions. Links: ⁠⁠Newsletter⁠⁠ Songs discussed: Taylor Swift, “Patient Zero” Taylor Swift, “Cleveland!” Taylor Swift, “Pink Clouding” Taylor Swift, “Babylon” Taylor Swift, “Red” Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Five years after her first appearance on Switched on Pop, Carly Rae Jepsen returns to the podcast to talk all things Day and Night, her latest album. Born out of Swedish disco, big emotion, and substantive life change – including becoming a wife and a mother – the double album is a tour through the organic and the synthetic, both in equal measure. For Charlie and Nate, this is a full circle moment, and along with discussing the record, the two talk to Jepsen about the origins of the show, her songwriting process, and what it means to be such an important champion of pop music. CREDITS Reanna Cruz: Producer Iris Gottlieb: Illustrator Charlie Harding: Host, Executive Producer Dion Lee: Art Director Brandon McFarland: Audio Engineer Nick Ripps: Video Editor Nate Sloan: Host Lissa Soep: Editor Zach Tenorio & Jocie Adams: Theme Composers Switched On Pop is a co-production of Vox Media Podcast Network, Vulture, and Rock Ridge Productions. Links: ⁠⁠Newsletter⁠⁠ Songs discussed: Carly Rae Jepsen, “After All” Carly Rae Jepsen, “Versailles” Carly Rae Jepsen, “Don’t Leave Me on the Dance Floor” Carly Rae Jepsen, “Near or Far” Carly Rae Jepsen, “Motivation” Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

Swedish singer-songwriter Tove Lo’s new album ESTRUS can be summarized in the opening lyrics of the album’s closing track, “source of life”: “Feral, fragile, numb, ecstatic / sad, euphoric, catatonic / Horny, repulsed, proud and shameful / Good, demonic, contradictions.” A songwriter with a string of multi-platinum hits in the 2010s, Tove Lo has crafted a career founded on musical contradiction, with songs that straddle the line between messy and controlled. Her lyrics tend to skew both horny and sensitive, and her latest record features both of those vibes in equal measure. On this episode of Switched on Pop, Charlie and Nate sit down with her to talk all things ESTRUS. CREDITS Reanna Cruz: Producer Iris Gottlieb: Illustrator Charlie Harding: Host, Executive Producer Dion Lee: Art Director Brandon McFarland: Audio Engineer Nick Ripps: Video Editor Nate Sloan: Host Lissa Soep: Editor Zach Tenorio & Jocie Adams: Theme Composers Switched On Pop is a co-production of Vox Media Podcast Network, Vulture, and Rock Ridge Productions. Links: ⁠⁠Newsletter⁠⁠ Songs discussed: Tove Lo, “a lot of feelings, no solutions” Tove Lo, “I’m your girl right?” Stromae, “Alors on danse” Tove Lo, “des fleurs x Stromae” Tove Lo, “DNH” Tove Lo, “F.A.M.T” Tove Lo, “are we on a break” Tove Lo, “idiot” Tove Lo, “source of life” Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices