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Monasteries & Minotaurs: Exploring Sacred Greece with Casey McFarland In this episode, Emilie and Ashlie sit down with Casey McFarland of Reliq Travel to give a deep dive into an upcoming, once-in-a-lifetime guided tour to Greece happening April 7–16, 2027. We’re keeping this group small and intimate, and spots are very limited! Currently, we only have room for two couples and one solo female traveler (to room with a fantastic community member). Listen in as Casey walks through the sacred history, myth, and geography of this incredible itinerary. What We’ll Explore: Athens: Uncovering ancient religious origins, Greek mythology, and the divine feminine. Delphi: Connecting with deep history and grounding spirituality in an epic mountain setting. Meteora: Visiting active, 1,000-year-old monasteries perched atop giant granite monoliths. Crete: Wrapping up our journey exploring ancient Minoan civilization and stunning coastal beauty. Links & Resources: 🇬🇷 Book Your Spot & View Full Greece Tour Itinerary 📖 Read Melanie McFarland’s Article on Delphi’s Oracle 📲 Follow Us on Instagram @thatschurchpodcast Enjoyed this episode? Don't forget to subscribe, leave a review, and share with a friend!

Recorded live at the Compass Gallery, this episode captures the "Becoming Sovereign" event hosted by That’s Church. We dive deep into the theological and practical aspects of sovereignty—defining it not as separation, but as "sacred self-authorship." What You’ll Hear in This Episode: Emilie Call & Anne Pimentel: An opening on the spiritual gift of women carrying one another’s burdens and the mission of That's Church. Rebecca Young: A guided meditation on the "Sovereign Mormon" and the interconnectedness of God's children. Amy Watkins Jensen: On the "premise of flourishing," using the examples of Oprah and Queen Esther to illustrate obedience to a personal divine call. Maxine Hanks: A deep dive into the theology of agency and the paradox of maintaining a private relationship with God while navigating the social path of belonging. McArthur Krishna: The "How-To" of sovereignty—starting before you're ready, embracing discomfort, and the power of teaching sovereignty to the next generation. Key Quotes: "When individual women flourish, whole communities thrive." — Amy Watkins Jensen "Sovereignty is both the right and the responsibility to use our divine agency to bring forth our divinity." — Maxine Hanks "If you can’t practice sovereignty on your own behalf, you can certainly teach it." — McArthur Krishna

Episode Overview How do you find spiritual independence after 30 years behind the pulpit? David Hayward (The NakedPastor) joins Emilie and Ashlie to discuss the "slow melt" of deconstruction, the power of art to bypass our defenses, and how to find community when you’ve left the "furnace of fellowship" behind. Key Highlights • The Growth Rings: Why your religious past is an essential part of your story, not something to be ashamed of. • The Wheel of Oneness: A visual guide to why the closer we get to the "truth," the more we realize we are all connected. • Challenging the Patriarchy: Why David’s feminist art often triggers the most controversy and why he refuses to stop drawing it. • Life After Church: Navigating the loneliness of leaving and learning that you don't have to be an "open book" to everyone to find real friends. Resources & Links • David’s Website: nakedpastor.com • Online Community: The Lasting Supper • Book Mentioned: The Liberation of Sophia by David Hayward • Follow David: @nakedpastor on Instagram Connect With Us • Instagram: @thatschurch • Website: thatschurch.org

We are kicking off Season Three with a powerful conversation about faith in a volatile world. Reverend Gerlyn Henry joins Emilie and Ashlie to discuss the ethics of ministry during times of global conflict and political tension. From the "resistance of joy" to the necessity of lamenting for Gaza and protecting the dignity of immigrants, this episode is a call to a bigger, more inclusive theology. In this episode, we discuss: Faith in the Public Square: Navigating ministry and social justice in today's climate. The Call to Lament: Centering human dignity (Imago Dei) during the crisis in Gaza. Bridges, Not Barriers: How radical hospitality humanizes the immigrant and the refugee. Prophetic Joy: Why finding joy in turbulence is a vital form of spiritual resistance. Connect with our Guest: Instagram: @Gerlynhenry Location: St. Jude’s in Scarborough, Ontario (through July 2026). Annual Women’s Event: Becoming Sovereign Full Title: Becoming Sovereign - Claiming your story, honoring your agency & Building our Beloved Community Date: March 7th, 2026 Time: 6:00 PM – 8:30 PM (Doors open at 5:30 PM) Tickets: Available at thatschurch.org Book Club & Field Trips Book Club: March 12th | 7:00 PM | Draper, Utah. Easter Field Trip: Join us at St. Mary’s Episcopal Church in Provo, Utah. Date: Thursday, April 2nd (Evening). Follow the journey: Instagram: @thatschurchpodcast Website: thatschurch.org Upcoming Events & Community Gatherings

This special Season 2 finale was filmed last summer at Our Savior Lutheran Church and captures something deeply meaningful to us. What began as an invitation from Pastor Reba to talk about faith, interfaith work, and peacebuilding quickly became a full day of connection. After inviting us to speak with the church council, the congregation welcomed us back during a summer BBQ filled with bouncy houses, incredible food, and people of all ages. This was the first time we had ever attempted community-style interviews. We bought microphones, stepped into the unknown, and listened. We spoke with youth, young couples raising small children, longtime members who have seen decades of change, and those who come and go but still feel at home. We talked with Pastor Reba and a member preparing to step into a lay pastor role to assist her. Across every conversation, one theme remained constant: everyone feels welcome here. Whether people arrived as lifelong Lutherans or from entirely different faith backgrounds—or none at all—each person shared how deeply accepted and valued they feel. Two older women, standing close and gently holding each other’s hands, embodied the tenderness and belonging that lives within this community. This episode took time to edit, but it felt like the perfect way to close Season 2. Looking Ahead to Season 3 Season 3 includes conversations with Gerlyn Henry, David Hayward (The Naked Pastor), and many other thoughtful voices we’re excited to share. As a growing nonprofit, we are also seeking a video editor who is interested in donating their time, gaining hands-on experience, and working with an organization focused on interfaith dialogue and peacebuilding. 📧 Interested? Email [email protected] Upcoming Event — March 2026 📅 March 7 📍 Compass Gallery Becoming Sovereign Claiming Your Story, Honoring Your Agency, and Building Our Beloved Community Presenters: McArthur Krishna Maxine Hanks Amy Watkins Jensen of Women on the Stand Each year, we host a women-centered event in March and an interfaith-focused event in the fall. This gathering centers women’s voices, personal agency, and the work of building beloved community. We would love to have you join us. Connect With Us 📸 Instagram: @thatschurchpodcast 🌐 Website: https://thatschurch.org