<p>Decades after his time with CIA, Kit Bennetts says there's always been a less visible side to our relationship with the US - but now we have to understand what that looks like. The Five Eyes will have to start making good choices - for everyone.</p><p>You can also listen to <a href="https://www.rnz.co.nz/podcast/the-service">The Service</a>, from RNZ and Bird of Paradise Productions on the RNZ website or on your favourite podcast app.</p><p><a href="https://www.rnz.co.nz/podcast/the-agency?share=9243e0d1-bd87-4dec-9a44-a465f8fd2834">Go to this episode on rnz.co.nz for more details</a></p>