The art of it.

Brandon and I spend a little over an hour talking all things creative.

Juan Zavala is a great friend of mine who specializes in videographer and is no stranger to the contractual freelance word of design. We cover a number of topics together, but most of all we just have some fun.

I sit down with one of my close friends, a truly dedicated and authentic creative, Zorin McGuire. We discuss several topics together, and specifically unpack the desire for a consistency within a creative space, how to stay creative when things don't always feel fresh.