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The Bandwich Tapes
Brad Williams
Richie Morales: Groove, Versatility, and a Life Behind the Drums
OCT 26, 202679 MIN
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Description
On this episode of The Bandwich Tapes, I sit down with drummer Richie Morales for a wide-ranging conversation about groove, versatility, preparation, and a career spent playing alongside some remarkable musicians.
Richie takes me back to his early years in Chicago and New York, where an eclectic musical upbringing and a willingness to learn opened doors to gigs with Ray Barretto, the Brecker Brothers, Spyro Gyra, Grover Washington Jr., Mike Stern, Al Di Meola, Dave Valentin, Bill Evans, and many others. We talk in depth about joining the Brecker Brothers, the intensity required to play that music, and what it meant to share a drum chair once occupied by some of his own heroes.
We also dig into Richie’s years with Spyro Gyra and the importance of developing a personal voice within an established band’s sound. Richie talks about working alongside great percussionists, learning the language of Afro-Cuban and Brazilian music on the bandstand, and understanding how a drummer and percussionist can create one unified rhythmic voice without getting in each other’s way.
A large part of our conversation is about education—not only Richie’s years as a teacher, but the kind of education that happens by playing with musicians who are more experienced than you. Richie reflects on the master-apprentice tradition that shaped him, his decision to return to school later in his career, and what today’s young musicians gain—and sometimes miss—in a world increasingly shaped by conservatories, YouTube, and social media.
And through all of it, we keep coming back to something fundamental: feel. Technique matters. Reading matters. Preparation matters. Versatility matters. But as Richie puts it, the feel is why people call you back.
Key Takeaways
• Richie traces his versatility to an early musical environment filled with rock, blues, jazz, Latin music, classical music, R&B, and pop.
• His relationship with Randy and Michael Brecker grew out of New York’s club scene, particularly Seventh Avenue South, eventually leading to touring and recording with the Brecker Brothers.
• Playing the Brecker Brothers’ music required intensity, deep pocket, stylistic authenticity, interaction, and the ability to move comfortably between R&B, jazz, Afro-Cuban, Brazilian, and fusion vocabulary.
• Richie credits musicians including Ray Barretto, Manolo Badrena, Don Alias, Sammy Figueroa, and others with helping him understand how drums and percussion can work together as one rhythmic voice.
• His years with Spyro Gyra gave him time to move beyond simply learning an established band’s sound and begin putting his own musical personality into the music.
• Preparation and professionalism have been as important to Richie’s career as technique: learn the music, understand the style, show up ready, and don’t make the same mistake twice.
• Richie sees enormous value in music education and modern technology, but believes there is still no substitute for playing with experienced musicians and learning on the bandstand.
Music from the Episode
Bright Lights - Spyro Gyra
Spirit Walk - Richie Morales
Piri Ti Latino - Spyro Gyra
Pan Caribe - Richie Morales
About the Podcast
The Bandwich Tapes is a musician-to-musician conversation about the people, experiences, and ideas behind the music. I talk with artists about their careers, creative process, collaborations, influences, and the lessons they’ve learned along the way.
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