The Business of Show Business

Jamie Body

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A podcast to help unpack the skills, stories, and side hustles behind the entertainment and creative industries. So if you're ready to thrive, not just survive, in the showbiz and arts & culture sectors, you're in the right place. A series of solo shows and interviews to help creatives with the business of show business. Learn how to market yourself as a creative and how to boss your social media and online presence. Great for actors, dancers, singers, producers, writers and those in the creative industries.

Recent Episodes

OCT 1, 2026
What Take That's Choreographer Looks For in an Audition | Adrian Gas
In 2009, Adrian Gas danced on Take That's record-breaking Circus Tour. Seventeen years later, he came back to choreograph it. Adrian is a dancer, choreographer, movement director and creative director. He has performed with Elton John, Ed Sheeran, Kylie and Rihanna, and worked on The Voice and Strictly Come Dancing. In this episode, Jamie Body sits down with him to talk about moving from the stage to the other side of the panel, and what really decides who gets booked. Adrian grew up in his mum's dance school in Ibiza, the son of a pianist and the grandson and son of Tiller Girls. He shares how winning a choreographic competition at Performers College planted the first seed, and why years of assisting taught him more than anything else. He also explains why the dance steps are often the easy part of a choreographer's job. He is refreshingly honest about casting. He talks about the height, hair colour, passport and budget decisions you will never hear about, and why worrying about them gets you nowhere. He also covers what makes a good email to a choreographer, why you should never go past two minutes on a showreel, and why lateness is the quickest way off his next job. In this episode: From Ibiza to Performers College, and falling in love with commercial dance Assistant to choreographer: the skills that led him there Reimagining Take That's Circus 17 years on, and reinventing Relight My Fire Working with Kim Gavin, a creative who won't take no for an answer Why networking is really just being a good human Emails, follow-ups and research: what gets you remembered Showreels: front-load your best work What happens behind the audition panel Does your follower count matter? How to practise your way out of audition nerves Quick-fire round: Paul McCartney, Justin Timberlake and a bottle that wasn't water Connect with Adrian: adriangas.com Connect with Jamie: Website: jamiebody.com Instagram: @bodyjamie The Business of Show Business is the podcast about the entertainment industry through a business and career lens, for performers and creatives who want a career, not just a job. If you enjoyed this episode, please follow, rate and review. It really helps the show reach more people.
50 MIN
SEP 17, 2026
Talent Isn't Enough: What Producers Actually Rebook | James Rowell & Natalie Dawson | The Business of Show Business
James Rowell and Natalie Dawson both started as performers, and now they have built a creative studio producing shows for Hampton Court Palace, London Zoo, Camden Market and cruise lines worldwide. In this episode James and Natalie of JR Creative Group pull back the curtain on what actually gets a performer hired, rehired and remembered — and why the most talented person in the audition room often isn't the one they book. In this episode, we get into how you actually make the move from stage to studio: pitching, budgeting, scope creep, and the unglamorous business skills nobody teaches at drama school. They also open up the casting inbox — 300 emails per call-out, and exactly what makes one stand out. We cover: - Why personality and reliability get you rebooked more often than technique - Always asking for a budget, even a ballpark, before you go blue-sky - Scope creep and the cost of being a pleaser - The full Hampton Court Palace Christmas timeline: pitch to opening night - Casting email etiquette, headshots and CVs that actually work - Why resorts, cruise ships and holiday camps are the best training you'll get - Pricing your day rate to cover overheads, savings and a pension - Networking alone, and why relationships come years before contracts - Making the transition from performer to creative director Follow the show wherever you listen, and find more at jamiebody.com.
47 MIN