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The Connection Effect with Bill Groner
Bill Groner
The Aftershow: #14 The Mattering Instinct (with Rebecca Goldstein)
SEP 7, 202643 MIN
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Description
In this aftershow episode of The Connection Effect, host Bill Groner reflects on his recent conversation with philosopher Rebecca Newberger Goldstein. Bill is joined by three fellow alumni of the University of Pennsylvania Master of Applied Positive Psychology program: Harry Hofer (Executive Coach), Sonya Looney (World Champion Athlete and Performance Coach), and Ilene Schaffer (Executive Coach).
While the main episode laid out Rebecca's "mattering map" in theoretical detail, this conversation — dedicated to the late mattering scholar Isaac Prilleltensky — brings it into everyday life, with each guest locating themselves on the map in real time and offering their own ideas about where it could expand.
Together, the group explores:
Where each of them falls on Rebecca's four-part map — socializer, transcender, heroic striver, competitor — and how that's shifted across different stages of their lives
A friendly pushback on the map itself: whether "giver" or "impacter" deserves to be a fifth category
Practical, concrete ways to help someone else feel valued in conversation, and why it's worth asking whether the other person felt like they mattered
Topics of Discussion:
00:00 Aftershow Kickoff
01:17 Why Mattering Matters
02:28 What Lights You Up
03:29 Giving and Receiving Value
09:13 Mattering Personas Explained
10:48 Transcender Calling and Legacy
13:17 Heroic Striver and Giving Back
17:26 Competitors and Core Needs
20:10 Coaching When Achieving Feels Empty
21:18 Reframing the Competitor Persona
22:44 Competition Reframed
24:40 Mattering Map Agency
26:12 Bill on Striving
27:38 Eileen Finds Her Mix
29:27 Sonya Venn Diagram
32:18 From Theory to Practice
33:12 Helping Others Matter
37:40 Sonya on Bespoke Value
39:08 Closing Reflections
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