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The Dad Edge Podcast
Larry Hagner
The Unspoken Expectations Are Quietly Hurting Your Marriage featuring Michael Bernoff
OCT 16, 202667 MIN
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Description
This week I sat down with Michael Bernoff, a human behavior expert with more than 20 years of study into communication, influence, and language. He's the founder of the Human Communications Institute and the author of Average Sucks, and he started as an average middle class Jersey kid who was told that certain things weren't for people like us. At 19 he discovered that communication is a skill you can learn, and at 21 he met his mentor Jim Rohn, whose success principles shaped decades of his work.
We got practical on the words we use with our kids, our wives, and ourselves when nobody is listening. Michael shared why saying it's hard keeps us stuck, why telling your kid you're proud of him might not be enough, how one phrase takes the pressure off any habit, and what your wife may really mean when she says you should know by now. If you're a dad or husband who wants to be more intentional about the language and communication patterns in your home, this one is for you.
Timeline Summary
[1:01] Larry welcomes Michael Bernoff and asks the story behind going by Mike versus Michael
[4:19] Larry introduces Michael: communication expert, founder of the Human Communications Institute, and author of Average Sucks
[9:17] Growing up with the "that's them, this is us" mindset, and why "how can I do that" beats "how does he do that"
[12:29] How wrestling legend Jake Herbert and Larry trade a daily gratitude text before 6 a.m.
[18:54] The psychology of communication: why words trigger a chemical reaction and performance is influence
[22:15] The reframe for kids: swap "it's hard" for "it's harder than you'd like it to be"
[25:39] Why "you should be proud of yourself" can land better than "I'm proud of you"
[29:24] Larry's story about praising a talented wrestler's wins instead of his work ethic
[31:30] Honor the effort, not the result: why "of course you did, that's the kind of person you are" works
[37:59] Why absolutes like every day create stress, and how "more often than not" makes habits doable
[43:40] What to say at night instead of "I'm exhausted": "I served a lot of people today"
[48:35] Sorting food into nutrition, entertainment, and addiction to change what you eat
[52:37] Marriage: why unspoken expectations lead to disappointment, and how to own your mistakes
[58:16] What "you should know by now" really means, and how to ask your wife for what you need
[1:00:35] Why your wife expects you to be great, and why it's okay she doesn't say it every day
[1:02:38] Closing message: it's up to dads to lead the change in how we communicate at home
Key Takeaways
Communication isn't about what you said, it's about what was heard, so speak to get the response you want instead of to sound right.
Teach your kids to say it's harder than they'd like it to be instead of it's hard, because that small change points the mind toward a solution.
Honor your kids' effort and who they're becoming instead of just the result, and help them feel proud of themselves so they don't need your approval to feel good.
Trade absolutes like every day for more often than not, and the pressure comes off while the habit sticks.
Say your expectations out loud to your wife, because unspoken expectations lead to disappointment, and you're not owed a particular response.
Links & Resources
Michael Bernoff: https://michaelbernoff.com
Average Sucks by Michael Bernoff: https://www.amazon.com/s?k=average+sucks+michael+bernoff
Dad Edge Alliance (October Bonuses): https://thedadedge.com/join
Dad Edge Day at State Farm Stadium: https://thedadedge.com/nfl
The Dad Edge Podcast: https://thedadedge.com/1544
Closing
Michael said it isn't what you say that matters, it's how what you said was received, and I've been listening to my own words differently ever since. When I told him how I wished my wife would touch me more and she heard criticism, I saw exactly how quickly a good request turns into a defensive moment. Michael's challenge was simple: ask for what you want, don't expect a perfect response, and lead the way in how your family talks. Pick one phrase this week, maybe more often than not, and use it with your kids and your wife. Go out and live legendary.

