The Defender Podcast

Over 3,400 children are in foster care in South Carolina, and some are staying in government offices because no homes are available. Rob, Herbie, and Ford discuss the need for families for teens and sibling groups, how to discern a call to foster, and practical ways to support foster families. South Carolina has 3,432 children in foster care, and about 2,800 entered care last year, more than seven a day. Lifeline’s Lowcountry team needs 75 homes for sibling groups and 181 for children without siblings. The children who have waited longest are ages 8 and up, sibling groups, and kids with higher needs. In this episode, Rob, Herbie, and Ford discuss: Why keeping siblings together and kids in their communities matters, and why safety always comes first The fear of saying goodbye, and what James 1:27 says about caring for vulnerable children Calling vs. feelings: how to discern whether God is leading you to foster Practical first steps, starting with talking to your pastor and community group Ways to support foster families through meals, encouragement, respite, and prayer Ready to take a step? Visit lifelinechild.org/becomeafosterparent, call 205-967-0811, or follow Lifeline Child on social media. If you’re outside South Carolina, reach out and Lifeline will connect you with resources. Creators & Guests Rick Morton - Host Herbie Newell - Host Chapters: 00:00 Welcome and the need in South Carolina 01:00 The numbers 02:30 Why siblings stay together 04:15 Keeping kids in their county 05:45 The fear of saying goodbye 06:40 James 1:27 and God’s sovereignty 07:55 Called to foster vs. called to advocate 08:50 Teens who need homes 10:40 Discerning your calling 13:20 How to get started 15:45 Engaging the next generation 16:40 Wrapping around foster families 19:10 Small acts, big impact 20:45 Closingfoster care, South Carolina, foster parenting, adoption, Christian, ministry, child welfare, teens in foster care, sibling groups, Lifeline Children’s Services, orphan care, church, family, Defender Podcast

Rick Morton, Emily Richards, and Herbie Newell sit down with Greyson Holt, a Lifeline family therapist in North Carolina, who is also a foster and adoptive mom and grew up as a sibling in an adoptive family. Greyson shares how a third-grade calling grew into a career, why the community around a family makes saying yes to a placement possible, and why counting the cost is faithful rather than faithless. The conversation covers TBRI in real kitchens, rupture and repair, the freedom of "getting it right 30 percent of the time," and how sanctification and belonging, not just peace, shape the way we parent. Greyson also talks about anchoring her work as a Christian therapist in who we are in Christ.

On this episode of The Table, host Dr. Rick Morton and the full panel, Chelsea Sobolik, Emily Chapman Richards, and Herbie Newell, welcome Lauren McAfee, founder and CEO of Life Collective, PhD student in ethics and public policy, and adoptive mom of three. Lauren shares how her passion for life and adoption began at a family birthday dinner, where an empty seat at the table prompted her and her sister to ask their parents about adopting. That prayerful nudge led to her youngest sister joining the family from China and eventually to Lauren and her husband, Michael, adopting three daughters from China, India, and the U.S. She also recounts how the Hobby Lobby Supreme Court case drew her into national pro-life leadership and inspired the founding of Life Collective. The panel explores the power of collective impact, why unity among like-minded ministries matters, and how churches can build networks that wrap holistic support around vulnerable women, children, and families. Lauren unpacks the Imago Dei as the foundation for both human dignity and our need for community, and she challenges Protestants to think more carefully about the ethics of reproductive technologies. With the State Department reporting intercountry adoption at an all-time low of roughly 800 in FY25, the group tackles the "PR problem" facing international adoption. Drawing on Chelsea's perspective as both an adoptee and adoptive mom, they discuss how Christians can hold grief and hope together, honor adult adoptee voices, and advocate well ahead of the 2027 Hague Special Commission on intercountry adoption. Timestamps 00:00 Welcome and panel introductions 03:40 Lauren's story: adoption, Hobby Lobby, and Life Collective 12:40 Collective impact and unity in the pro-life movement 17:14 The church as a community that lives out the call 21:50 Bioethics, reproductive technology, and the Protestant church 28:01 Intercountry adoption hits an all-time low 34:46 International adoption's PR problem 41:23 Laying down agendas for the bigger vision 47:18 Adult adoptee voices and the 2027 Hague Special Commission 49:51 Closing thoughts Pull up a chair, and subscribe, rate, and review The Table wherever you listen or watch.

Simon Benn was adopted at five weeks old in 1967 and grew up in England always knowing his story. At 40, an unexpected burst of anger during a horse whispering course brought buried feelings about his birth mother to the surface. Nine years later, a letter in his adoption file changed everything. Rick Morton talks with the founder of Thriving Adoptees about the primal wound, why adoptive parents should never dismiss relinquishment trauma, and why the adoption community needs to move from trauma obsessed to thriving obsessed. As Simon puts it, the past is a place of reference, not a place of residence. Find more at thrivingadoptees.com.

Katie Adams, manager of Lifeline's expat adoption program, joins Dr. Rick to trace her path from a childhood on Fort Benning through a faith awakening in high school, a major shift from nursing to social work at Samford, and a season of service with kids with special needs. She shares how a global pandemic redirected her toward Lifeline, how she fell unexpectedly in love with India's adoption program, and how she now helps missionary and military families overseas navigate the practical, financial, and emotional sides of adopting internationally.