The EdUp Learning and Development Podcast

In this episode, Holly sits down with Nicole Papaioannou Lugara, founder of Your Instructional Designer, to talk about the changing world of learning and development and what it takes to build a sustainable career in an industry that continues to evolve. From the rise of AI to the expanding role of instructional designers, Holly and Nicole have an honest conversation about what is happening in L&D, what professionals need to pay attention to, and how to prepare for what comes next. Together, they discuss: How AI is changing the L&D landscape Why instructional designers need stronger business acumen Setting boundaries, defining scope, and knowing when to say no Building a sustainable and profitable L&D career The skills that will help L&D professionals future-proof their careers The big takeaway? Future-proofing your L&D career isn't about chasing every new tool or trend. It's about developing durable skills, understanding the business, building relationships, and being willing to evolve. AI is changing the industry, organizations are changing, and the role of the instructional designer continues to expand. But Nicole makes the case that professionals who can think critically, understand business needs, communicate effectively, and adapt to change will continue to bring tremendous value. Whether you're an instructional designer navigating the job market, considering freelancing or entrepreneurship, or simply trying to figure out where L&D is headed, this conversation offers a realistic look at what it takes to keep growing in this field. Shoutouts and resources shared: Your Instructional Designer — Learn more about Nicole's work in learning and development. Nicole Papaioannou Lugara — Connect with Nicole and follow her work in instructional design and L&D. Christy Tucker — Nicole highlights Christy's approach to setting boundaries, defining her area of expertise, and knowing how to say no. Offbeat by Lavinia — A practical, community-centered L&D newsletter recommended by Nicole. Connect with US 💼 Follow Holly on LinkedIn — Connect with Holly on LinkedIn 📹 Subscribe to our YouTube Channel — Watch EdUp L&D on YouTube 📰 Subscribe to the Newsletter — Get It’s Not Just One Thing in L&D delivered to your inbox 💃 Check us out on TikTok — @ihollyo 💌 Connect with Holly — Schedule a conversation Thanks for subscribing, listening, and supporting our show! 💙

In this episode, Holly sits down with Dr. Panos Siozos, CEO and Co-Founder of LearnWorlds, to explore what the rise of AI means for instructional designers, L&D professionals, and the future of learning. Together, they unpack the opportunities and challenges AI brings to the field, and why the future isn't about replacing instructional designers, but empowering them to focus on the parts of learning that matter most. Together, the discussion explores: How AI is changing the instructional design process Why AI can take on some of the repetitive work without replacing instructional design expertise The difference between generating content and actually creating learning Why learner experience should be at the center of instructional design Using AI to create more personalized, interactive, and engaging learning experiences Why organizations need to make learning a strategic priority in the age of AI Moving beyond "click-through" training and annual compliance courses How L&D teams can create an operating system of learning within their organizations Measuring real learning outcomes instead of relying solely on completion rates and activity metrics Why instructional designers may become even more important as organizations adapt to constant change The opportunities AI creates for instructional designers, trainers, and subject matter experts The big takeaway? AI may change the work instructional designers do, but it doesn't eliminate the need for instructional design. As AI makes content creation faster and easier, instructional designers have an opportunity to focus more of their expertise on learner experience, meaningful practice, strategic learning design, and creating the friction that actually helps people learn. If you're an instructional designer wondering how to thrive in an AI-powered future, trying to figure out how to use AI in your work, or simply thinking about what's next for L&D, this conversation is for you. Shoutouts and resources shared: LearnWorlds — Check out the platform for creating, delivering, and selling online learning experiences. Dr. Panos Siozos— Connect with Panos and follow his work in AI, educational technology, and online learning. Connect with US 💼 Follow Holly on LinkedIn — Connect with Holly on LinkedIn 📹 Subscribe to our YouTube Channel — Watch EdUp L&D on YouTube 📰 Subscribe to the Newsletter — Get It’s Not Just One Thing in L&D delivered to your inbox 💃 Check us out on TikTok — @ihollyo 💌 Connect with Holly — Schedule a conversation Thanks for subscribing, listening, and supporting our show! 💙

This episode was previously recorded as a LinkedIn Live on 9/23/26. Holly kicks off the live session with a little housekeeping before inviting listeners to reflect on their own career journeys. The conversation dives into what it really means to build a career around your strengths, and why the experiences that seem unrelated at the time can actually become some of your greatest career assets. Together, the discussion explores: Embracing change and knowing when it’s time to pivot Evaluating career opportunities based on what you actually want Setting healthy boundaries in the workplace Redefining what career success means as your life evolves Recognizing the value of your experiences—even the unexpected ones Building a career blueprint around your strengths, goals, and aspirations The big takeaway? Your career doesn't have to follow a straight line. You can change direction, redefine success, and build a career that fits the person you are now—not just the person you were when you started. If you're questioning your next move, feeling stuck, or wondering what comes next, this conversation is for you. Shoutouts and resources shared: Your Career Blueprint SKIP - Use the code "HOLLY" for 10% off your subscription and follow my friend Chelsea Maude Averitt on LinkedIn NextGround - Go join the waitlist for the NextGround paths (coming soon!) and follow my friend Devin Lewis on LinkedIn Check out and register for the Next Chapter Conference happening in New Orleans on November 4 & 5, and follow my friend Ella Epshteyn on LinkedIn Check out the fantastic master's programs offered through Touro University's Graduate School of Technology (where I teach!) Connect with US 💼 Follow Holly on LinkedIn — Connect with Holly on LinkedIn📹 📹 Subscribe to our YouTube Channel 📰 Subscribe to the Newsletter — Get It’s Not Just One Thing delivered to your inbox 💃Check us out on TikTok 💌 Connect with Holly — Schedule a conversation Thanks for subscribing, listening, and supporting our show! 💙

Episode 192: Finding Work That Actually Excites You with Dave FanoWhat does it really mean to find a fulfilling career—and how do you navigate the job search when the market feels harder than ever? In this episode of EdUp L&D, I’m joined by Dave Fano, founder of Teal, a career platform designed to help job seekers take more control of their search. Dave and I talk about what people are really looking for in their careers, why the current job market can feel so frustrating, and how AI is changing the way we search for and communicate about jobs. We also dig into something I think gets overlooked way too often: excitement. What if finding a job isn’t just about checking the right boxes, but about finding work that genuinely energizes you? Dave shares his perspective on approaching the job search more objectively, staying authentic throughout the process, creating opportunities instead of waiting for them, and navigating a job market that continues to evolve. In this episode, we talk about:Why pursuing fulfilling work matters The challenges job seekers are facing right now How AI is changing the job search The impact of AI on communication and how we present ourselves Why excitement should play a role in your job search How to approach your job search more objectively The importance of authenticity Creating opportunities instead of waiting for the “perfect” job to appear Chapters00:00 — Introduction to Teal and Career Aspirations 01:03 — The Pursuit of a Fulfilling Career 04:01 — Challenges in the Job Market 20:57 — The Impact of AI on Job Seeking 23:05 — The Impact of AI on Communication 32:48 — The Role of Excitement in Job Search 37:04 — The Value of Being Objective in Job Search Connect with Dave & Teal➡️ Follow Dave on LinkedIn 🔗 Sign Up for Teal — Start your job search with Teal 📹 Check out Teal's YouTube Channel Connect with US💼 Follow Holly on LinkedIn — Connect with Holly on LinkedIn📹Subscribe to our YouTube Channel 📰 Subscribe to the Newsletter — Get It’s Not Just One Thing delivered to your inbox 💃Check us out on TikTok 📲 Grab Free Resources — Check out Holly’s Gumroad for helpful resources and tools. 💌 Connect with Holly — Schedule a conversation Thanks for subscribing, listening, and supporting our show! 💙

You Deserve a Happy Life Holly is finally back on the mic! After nearly a year away from podcasting, she’s catching listeners up on what’s been happening personally and professionally—from grief and family to leaving jobs, navigating the L&D job market, and figuring out what she actually wants next. This episode is a real-talk reflection on career, identity, and the reminder that your job is only one part of your life. Most importantly, Holly wants you to remember one thing: you deserve a happy life. Holly’s return to podcasting and what kept her away Navigating grief and putting family first Leaving jobs without having the next one lined up What Holly has learned from being back in the L&D job market Why your career shouldn't become your entire identity Figuring out what brings you joy and fulfillment Why you shouldn't wait for the “perfect” time to make a change “You deserve to have a happy life.” Holly challenges you to think beyond your job title and ask yourself: What do you actually want? What brings you joy? And what are you waiting for? Episode Sections 00:00 — Holly is back! 02:19 — Touro Graduate School of Technology spotlight 04:41 — Holly’s career journey since 2024 07:04 — Family, grief, and difficult career decisions 09:27 — The reality of being in the job market 11:55 — Who are you outside of your career? 14:17 — “You’re going to die” and why that hit differently 16:35 — Rejections, L&D, and figuring out what’s next 19:00 — You deserve a happy life 21:18 — What’s coming in Season 7 Touro University Graduate School of Technology Mel Robbins and Gary V Episode EdUp L&D LinkedIn: Follow me on LinkedIn TikTok: @ihollyo Email: [email protected] Want to be featured in Holly’s upcoming “Hire This Person” content? Reach out via LinkedIn or email. Your career matters—but so does your life outside of work. So Holly’s question for you is: What are you waiting for? RSVP to my upcoming LinkedIn Live event