Tommy Mello hosts a Super Bowl day episode of The Home Service Expert with Ismael Valdez, founder of VE and NextGen (Anaheim), discussing how to scale home service businesses through disciplined marketing, sales process mastery, and operational execution. Ishmael explains how he would evaluate investing in a $20M company by first assessing the energy and leadership of the C-suite/upper management, then reviewing data systems like CRM/ServiceTitan and financials, contrasting this with smaller $4 - $5M owner-driven businesses. They discuss the importance of competitiveness, infrastructure, and recruiting, and Tommy's focus on lead generation and funnel math (booking rate, cancellations, conversion rate), including capacity planning, overstaffing with outbound to fill boards, and lowering cancellations driven by response time. Ishmael emphasizes three core departments: marketing, sales, and operations/customer fulfillment, and argues many operators underperform in marketing and sales. 00:00 The Importance of Client Empowerment 06:03 Marketing as the Foundation of Success 11:53 Managing Seasonality in Business 14:59 Investment Strategies Post-Exit 22:28 Creative Financing and Collaboration 31:14 Market Entry Strategies and Performance Metrics 36:27 Marketing and Brand Recognition 39:06 Sales Techniques and Customer Engagement 49:19 The Power of Personal Branding 55:16 Sales Strategies and Growth Goals