The Inclusive AF Podcast

Two years of HR Tech, on camera. Katee Van Horn and Jackye Clayton on the floor in 2024, then the guests from HR Tech week 2025 who showed us what actually worked: a retention tool that took preventable turnover to zero at one site, and a COBOL developer who opened a door three years of pitching couldn't. Chapters0:00 Cold open0:25 Inclusive AF at HR Tech: Best of 2024–20250:34 Jackye and Katee on the HR Tech floor (2024)5:32 Caitlin Carragee and Mark Zimmerman, CoAdvantage (2025)11:24 Curtis Forbes, Mustard Hub (2025)16:38 Michael Wenning, Passive (2025) Recorded at and around HR Tech in 2024 and 2025.

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What happens when an absence becomes so familiar that nobody thinks to question it? While watching the World Cup, Jackye Clayton and Katee Van Horn noticed that Argentina’s national team looked different from many of the teams competing around it. That observation opened a much bigger conversation about Black identity, national representation and how people can remain present while becoming invisible within the dominant story. In this episode of Inclusive AF, Jackye and Katee use Argentina as a lens for examining something HR and business leaders see every day: normalized exclusion. It happens when the leadership team has looked the same for so long that no one asks who is missing. When Black employees are represented in the workforce but absent from succession plans, influential roles and executive decision-making. When the same groups repeatedly leave, yet every departure is treated as an individual choice instead of part of a larger pattern. The conversation explores: Why representation is not the same as inclusion, influence or power How repeated inequity can begin to look normal Why organizations often notice individual outcomes but miss systemic patterns How hiring, promotion, sponsorship, performance reviews and succession decisions shape who becomes visible Why employees should not have to prove exclusion before leaders are willing to examine it What HR teams should measure when headcount alone tells an incomplete story This episode is not claiming that Black Argentines do not exist. It asks how people can be present while being excluded from the public picture of who belongs. That is also the question every organization should be willing to ask: Who is present in our workforce but missing from our picture of leadership, opportunity and influence? Because inclusion requires more than inviting people into the room. It requires someone to keep looking at who is heard, who advances, who holds power and whose absence the organization has learned not to notice. Listen to “Where Are the Black People in Argentina?” and join the workplace conversation about what we normalize, what we measure and what we choose to see.

Get ready for a thought-provoking conversation on The Inclusive AF Podcast! In this episode, hosts Jackye Clayton and Katee Van Horn sit down with Tina Shah Paikeday , Senior Advisor for Responsible AI at Findem, to dig into how AI is revolutionizing talent acquisition and diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) in the workplace. Discover: - How can AI help reduce bias in hiring—and what pitfalls you should watch out for? - What should HR leaders and recruiters know about evolving regulations surrounding AI in talent decisions? - Why human oversight is critical to ethical AI—and where technology is taking us next. - Real-world stories and practical tips for building more inclusive hiring processes with AI-powered tools. If you're an HR professional, recruiter, or just passionate about building better, more inclusive workplaces, this episode is for you! Learn why it's not about robots replacing humans, but about using AI to enhance our efforts and create a fairer hiring playing field. 🔗 LIKE, SUBSCRIBE, and hit the notification bell for the latest on all things inclusion, HR, and future of work! #InclusiveAF #HRTech #AIinHiring #WorkplaceInclusion #ResponsibleAI #DiversityandInclusion #FutureOfWork #Recruiting #Findem #TalentAcquisition #AIethics #WomenInTech Listen now and join the conversation! If you like what you hear, we would like to encourage you to subscribe to our channel! We would also appreciate it if you would rate this channel by going here: RateThisPodcast.com/inclusiveaf We create this podcast as a labor of love. But if you would like to support this channel you can buy us a cup of coffee here: https://www.buymeacoffee.com/InclusiveAF