Jason Kindler: Stop Playing With AI and Start Building With It | MAP Ep. 2

Send us Fan Mail How Jason Kindler Uses AI to Create Real Leverage in Mortgage In the first guest episode of the Mortgage AI Podcast, Frazier interviews mortgage broker owner and producing LO Jason Kindler of First Coast Mortgage Funding (400–500M annually) about what the mortgage industry misunderstands about AI and how to use it for real business leverage. Jason says most people still see AI as prompting for images, are distracted by shiny objects, or are afraid to dabble, and he emphasizes starting with a clear objective. He shares practical use cases: building value-first tools to attract realtors (like a headshot/thumbnail generator and marketing tools for new construction agents), creating operational efficiencies such as an email/notification digest, and developing an AI loan officer assistant to automate borrower communication and document work. They discuss how fast tools are evolving, why “Claude vs ChatGPT” debates are noise, and why communication and relationships become more valuable as AI advances. 00:00 Welcome and First Guest 01:14 Meet Jason Kindler 02:40 AI Misconceptions and Fear 04:20 From Prompts to Leverage 06:44 Using AI for Marketing 10:17 Start Date and Tool Hopping 11:42 Building Realtor Value Apps 14:48 Operational Wins and Cash Flow 16:07 AI Tools Evolving Fast 19:16 Vibe Coding and ROI Focus 21:58 Tool Overload Reality 24:25 Start Small With AI 25:48 Best ROI Automations 29:25 Record Everything Workflow 30:55 Rapid Fire AI Takes 35:03 Next Steps And Wrap Connect with Jason Kindler Presented by: DIFRNT Coaching Founding Sponsor: MortgageCon Broker Sponsor: Summit Lending Friends of the Program: Empower LO