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The One Inside: An Internal Family Systems (IFS) podcast
Tammy Sollenberger
IFS, Non-Duality, and Presence with Dr. Laura Patryas
OCT 9, 202647 MIN
Description
On this week's episode I'm excited to chat with Dr. Laura Patryas, a psychologist, author, spiritual teacher, and 2026 IFS Annual Conference presenter. We discuss non-duality, presence, wholeness, and Cabbage Patch dolls.
Takeaways
Honoring all of our parts while remembering the wholeness underneath them
Every part has Self at its core. The burdens obscure it, but they don't change what's underneath
Multiplicity and unity coexist--you can be a in part and be whole at the same time
Tantra means to weave and to become whole--so does IFS
Either-or thinking is often a burdened part, where Self offers perspective and choice
My childhood Cabbage Patch doll burden is a lesson in non-duality
Wholeness doesn't mean perfect
Awakening is being present with whatever part is showing up right now
Parts sometimes try to keep us safe from silence, stillness, and presence
Presence is a birthright, and it's something you can practice and develop
Three Fs: focus, flow, and feeling. It's a simple way to track how blended you are in any moment
Therapeutic presence relies on something transpersonal
Self leadership can be fierce and boundaried
"You are loved. Every one of your parts is already loved."
Here's a link to the Easing Back In meditation I mentioned.
Find Laura Website | Instagram | YouTube | Facebook | LinkedIn | Substack | Books
About Laura
Laura Patryas is a psychologist, author, and spiritual teacher whose work brings together Internal Family Systems, nonduality, and embodied spirituality. She is the author of Awaken to Love, exploring how we can reclaim our wholeness and awaken to the love that is already here.
Episode Sponsor
This episode is sponsored by the IFS Institute.
This October, join the IFS Institute for the 2026 IFS Annual Conference, happening fully online October 15th and 16th. Over two days, you'll hear from over 45 voices from across the IFS community exploring the theme of Self in Relationship: From Inner Healing to Collective Repair. This year's workshops will cover topics from clinical practice and emerging research to Self-leadership, relationships, culture, and the challenges we're navigating in the world today. Because this year's conference is fully virtual, you can join the IFS community from wherever you are. Visit ifs-institute.com/conference to learn more and register.
About The One Inside
I started this podcast to help spread IFS out into the world and make the model more accessible to everyone. Eight years later, that's still at the heart of all we do.
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I co-create The One Inside with Jeff Schrum, a writer, producer, and IFS Level 2 practitioner who helps therapists, coaches, and teachers shape and share their story.
Resources
New to IFS? My book, The One Inside: Thirty Days to Your Authentic Self, is a great place to start.
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Sponsorship
Want to sponsor an episode of The One Inside? Email Tammy.

