The Recruiter's Recruitment Podcast

Lysha Holmes

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Welcome to The Recruiter's Recruitment Podcast! The Recruiters Recruitment Podcast is listened to from all corners of the globe. Created in the global lockdown of 2020, our audience drop in knowing that they are going to listen to a guest who is a knowledgable leader in their industry willingly sharing their professional and often personal journeys to enable YOU, our precious listener, a chance to learn, self-development and above all else, reflect on your own life and experience. A safe place where we hope to allow you to learn something. Our host - Lysha Holmes has been in the recruitment industry for almost a quarter of a century and for most of that duration, has championed best practise in the Rec2Rec sphere. A vocal advocate for well-being, Lysha talks openly about sobriety, and her life as a solo parent all whilst running a recruitment business. Here we are now in 2026- with Season 7 which will focus on the holistic approach to leadership with more experts and inspiring voices from across the recruitment industry and beyond, sharing their experiences with you, our cherished listener! The Recruiter's Recruitment Podcast is for those who are aspiring future leaders, those who want to improve themselves on their recruitment journey and also those who are running companies now to learn from their peers. Above all else, we hope you find the podcast to be a positive inspiring place to be. Watch all the episodes over on our YouTube channel- https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCEiVMynhdhSz4Qzu2gguHG TRRP is now part of The Recruitment Podcast Network - https://recruitmentpodcastnetwork.com/ ---------- The Recruiter's Recruitment Podcast is proudly sponsored by Paiger and Atlas, and partnered with Bristow & Hardy and Keybridge IT Solutions. Our sponsors: Paiger - Making Recruiters Smarter and Faster. Paiger helps recruiters build personal brands, identify new business opportunities, attract candidates, and have better conversations. Find out more about Paiger: https://paiger.co/ Atlas - Imagine a recruitment platform that was built from the ground up using the latest in generative AI technology. A platform that combines your favourite 10 tools into one simple UI with perfect integration out of the box. Imagine all your mundane tasks automated. The result? You'll generate 50% more revenue. Find out more about Atlas: https://recruitwithatlas.com/ Our partners: Bristow & Hardy partners with SME recruitment agencies to accelerate growth through sales enablement and recruitment marketing. With over 7 years’ experience, we specialise exclusively in the recruitment sector, delivering strategy, branding, websites, marketing campaigns, and sales support. Our proven growth suite of products helps agencies attract more clients, win more business, and scale efficiently. https://www.bristowandhardy.co.uk/ Keybridge IT Solutions is a London-based Fully Managed IT Support and solutions Provider - Providing 24×7 Support to all Customers. Specialities include Microsoft Cloud, including Office 365, Microsoft 365, Microsoft Azure, Security, Internet Connectivity, VoIP, and much more. https://www.keybridgeit.com/ Don't forget to like and subscribe to our podcast and stay tuned for our episodes! ***Add your placement song to our podcast playlist! https://open.spotify.com/playlist/0MJf3d4gnZNeBjtPqhAfrW?si=pOELhntxSYuPNyWRLHbhgg

Recent Episodes

NOV 2, 2026
EP344: How AI Can Put Your Top Biller on Every Desk - Roheel Ahmad, Founder, Imagine AI
What if your CRM didn't just make recruiters faster, but actually made them better at recruitment? In this episode of The Recruiter's Recruitment Podcast, Lysha Holmes welcomes back Roheel Ahmad, CEO and Founder of Imagine AI, for a fascinating conversation about how AI is changing the way recruitment businesses operate, develop their people and drive performance. Having built and led successful recruitment businesses, including Forsyth Barnes, Roheel understands the frustrations recruiters face with traditional CRM systems. Too much data entry, too many disconnected platforms and too much valuable information sitting in databases without ever being turned into business. That's why he created Imagine AI: a platform designed to go beyond automation and deliver what he calls CRM improvement. Roheel shares how Imagine AI is helping recruitment businesses put their best practices into action, identify buying signals, improve candidate matching and use real conversation data to develop recruiters. The ambition? To put your top biller on every desk. But this conversation goes much deeper than technology. Lysha and Roheel explore why so many recruitment leaders have never received formal management or leadership training, why businesses need to get their expectations out of their heads and onto paper, and how structured playbooks can transform everything from business development to interviewing and performance management. They also discuss the importance of retaining great people, the future of AI in recruitment and why the real opportunity isn't replacing recruiters, but helping them become better at the parts of the job that matter most. Roheel brings a unique perspective to the AI conversation because he's not just building technology. He's lived the challenges of running a recruitment business and understands what recruiters actually need from their systems. If you're a recruitment founder, owner, leader or consultant thinking about how to get more from your people, your data and your technology, this is an episode you won't want to miss. 🔗 Connect with the guest Roheel Ahmad: https://www.linkedin.com/in/roheelahmad/ Imagine AI: https://www.imagine-ai.com/ 🔗 Connect with the host Lysha Holmes: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lyshaholmesr2r/ Qui Recruitment: https://www.quirecruitment.co.uk/ The Recruiter’s Recruitment Podcast is part of the Recruitment Podcast Network: https://recruitmentpodcastnetwork.com Follow the podcast on YouTube, Spotify and Apple Podcasts: https://www.youtube.com/@therecruitersrecruitmentpod https://the-recruiters-recruitment-podcast.captivate.fm/ —————— The Recruiter's Recruitment Podcast is proudly sponsored by Paiger and Atlas, and partnered with Bristow & Hardy and Keybridge IT Solutions. Our sponsors: Paiger — Making Recruiters Smarter and Faster Paiger helps recruiters build personal brands, identify new business, attract candidates and have better conversations. https://paiger.co/ Atlas — Recruitment powered by the latest in generative AI A recruitment platform that combines your favourite ten tools into one simple user interface with perfect integration out of the box. https://recruitwithatlas.com/ Our partners: Bristow & Hardy works exclusively with SME recruitment agencies on growth through sales enablement and recruitment marketing, including strategy, branding, websites, campaigns and sales support. https://www.bristowandhardy.co.uk/ Keybridge IT Solutions is a London-based provider offering 24×7 support, specialising in Microsoft Cloud, Microsoft 365, Azure, security, connectivity and VoIP. https://www.keybridgeit.com/ #Recruitment #RecruitmentPodcast #RecruitmentTechnology #ArtificialIntelligence #RecruitmentAI #ImagineAI #RecruitmentCRM #RecruitmentLeadership #RecruitmentBusiness #RecruitmentFounders #TalentAcquisition #RecruitmentTraining #RecruitmentPerformance #BusinessGrowth #TheRecruitersRecruitmentPodcast
29 MIN
OCT 26, 2026
EP343: Why Transactional Recruitment Is Dying - Kirk Evans & Ant Davidson, Co-Founders, Nter Talent
What does it take to build a recruitment business that stands out in a crowded market, wins long-term client partnerships and scales without losing sight of its people? In this episode of The Recruiter's Recruitment Podcast, Lysha Holmes is joined by Kirk Evans and Ant Davidson, Co-Founders of Nter Talent, for an honest, funny and refreshingly direct conversation about building a recruitment business differently. Having launched Nter Talent in 2023, Kirk and Ant have built their business around a clear belief: transactional recruitment is dying, and clients need more than another agency competing on fees. Their approach focuses on embedded partnerships, tailored talent solutions and transparent data that demonstrates real value. In this episode, they share: - Why transactional recruitment is losing its appeal: How moving beyond individual placements to embedded partnerships can help recruiters become indispensable to their clients. - Building a recruitment business with purpose: Why they chose external investment, the importance of shared values and how complementary leadership styles have helped them grow together. - Scaling through specialisation: How their central delivery team, sector-focused approach and land-and-expand strategy help clients recruit across functions and international markets, including the US. - Creating accountability as a founder: Why leaders should remain hands-on, generate revenue and avoid becoming bottlenecks as their teams develop. - Rethinking recruitment training: Why Nter Talent is investing in a three-month cohort-based training programme for people new to recruitment, prioritising resilience, personality and potential over experience alone. Kirk and Ant also discuss the realities of launching in a challenging market, the importance of being transparent with clients, and why keeping recruitment simple can be far more effective than overcomplicating the sales process. If you're a recruitment founder thinking about your growth strategy, a leader looking to build a stronger team, or a recruiter questioning whether the traditional agency model is still fit for purpose, this episode offers plenty to consider. 🔗 Connect with the guests Kirk Evans: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kirk-evans-5b6685270/ Ant Davidson: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ant-davidson-ntertalent/ Nter Talent: https://www.ntertalent.com/ 🔗 Connect with the host Lysha Holmes: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lyshaholmesr2r/ Qui Recruitment: https://www.quirecruitment.co.uk/ The Recruiter’s Recruitment Podcast is proud to be part of the Recruitment Podcast Network: https://recruitmentpodcastnetwork.com Follow the podcast on YouTube, Spotify and Apple Podcasts: https://www.youtube.com/@therecruitersrecruitmentpod https://the-recruiters-recruitment-podcast.captivate.fm/ —————— The Recruiter's Recruitment Podcast is proudly sponsored by Paiger and Atlas, and partnered with Bristow & Hardy and Keybridge IT Solutions. SPONSORS Paiger — Making Recruiters Smarter and Faster Paiger helps recruiters build personal brands, identify new business, attract candidates and have better conversations. https://paiger.co/ Atlas — Recruitment powered by generative AI A recruitment platform combining 10 tools in one integrated UI and automating mundane tasks. Its stated result: “You'll generate 50% more revenue.” https://recruitwithatlas.com/ PARTNERS Bristow & Hardy — Recruitment growth specialists Working exclusively with SME recruitment agencies on growth through sales enablement and recruitment marketing, including strategy, branding, websites, campaigns and sales support. https://www.bristowandhardy.co.uk/ Keybridge IT Solutions — Managed IT support and solutions A London-based provider offering 24×7 support, specialising in Microsoft Cloud, Microsoft 365, Azure, security, connectivity and VoIP. https://www.keybridgeit.com/ #Recruitment #RecruitmentBusiness #RecruitmentFounders #RecruitmentLeadership #EmbeddedRecruitment #TalentSolutions #BusinessGrowth #RecruitmentTraining #TalentAcquisition #NterTalent #RecruitersRecruitmentPodcast
46 MIN
OCT 19, 2026
EP342: Building a High-Performance Recruitment Business with AI - Dave Radford, Founder, 7X Partners
What does it take to build a high-performance recruitment business in the age of AI? On this episode of The Recruiter’s Recruitment Podcast, Lysha Holmes speaks with Dave Radford, Founder of 7X Partners, about building, scaling and leading recruitment businesses — and what he has learned from doing it more than once. Dave shares his journey from Nike and retail into recruitment, launching his first recruitment business, navigating the extraordinary post-Covid boom and crash, scaling larger teams, and ultimately returning to entrepreneurship with 7X Partners. They discuss why getting a recruitment business beyond 10 people can be so difficult, why niche specialisation is increasingly important, and how recruiters can build deeper relationships with a defined market rather than trying to be everything to everyone. Dave also shares his vision for combining traditional recruitment values with modern AI and technology. From smarter CRMs and automated workflows to identifying market signals such as funding, leadership changes and new hires, he explains how technology can create a platform for recruiters to perform at a higher level — without losing the human element. The conversation also explores high-performance culture, wellbeing, empowering recruiters to approach CEOs and senior decision-makers, working with VC-backed businesses, and the lessons Dave has taken from his previous ventures into building 7X Partners. Who this episode is for: • Recruitment business owners and founders • Recruiters looking to scale their careers or businesses • Leaders navigating growth beyond 10 employees • Recruiters interested in AI and recruitment technology • Anyone interested in recruitment culture, leadership and high performance 🔗 Connect with the guest Dave Radford: https://www.linkedin.com/in/david-radford-57a096138/ 7X Partners: https://7xpartners.ai/ 🔗 Connect with the host Lysha Holmes: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lyshaholmesr2r/ Qui Recruitment: https://www.quirecruitment.co.uk/ The Recruiter’s Recruitment Podcast is proud to be part of the Recruitment Podcast Network: https://recruitmentpodcastnetwork.com Follow the podcast on YouTube, Spotify and Apple Podcasts: https://www.youtube.com/@therecruitersrecruitmentpod https://the-recruiters-recruitment-podcast.captivate.fm/ —————— The Recruiter's Recruitment Podcast is proudly sponsored by Paiger and Atlas, and partnered with Bristow & Hardy and Keybridge IT Solutions. Our sponsors: Paiger - Making Recruiters Smarter and Faster. Paiger helps recruiters build personal brands, identify new business opportunities, attract candidates, and have better conversations. Find out more about Paiger: https://paiger.co/ Atlas - Imagine a recruitment platform that was built from the ground up using the latest in generative AI technology. A platform that combines your favourite 10 tools into one simple UI with perfect integration out of the box. Imagine all your mundane tasks automated. The result? You'll generate 50% more revenue. Find out more about Atlas: https://recruitwithatlas.com/ Our partners: Bristow & Hardy partners with SME recruitment agencies to accelerate growth through sales enablement and recruitment marketing. With over 7 years’ experience, we specialise exclusively in the recruitment sector, delivering strategy, branding, websites, marketing campaigns, and sales support. Our proven growth suite of products helps agencies attract more clients, win more business, and scale efficiently. https://www.bristowandhardy.co.uk/ Keybridge IT Solutions is a London-based Fully Managed IT Support and solutions Provider - Providing 24×7 Support to all Customers. Specialities include Microsoft Cloud, including Office 365, Microsoft 365, Microsoft Azure, Security, Internet Connectivity, VoIP, and much more. https://www.keybridgeit.com/ #Recruitment #RecruitmentPodcast #RecruitmentBusiness #RecruitmentLeadership #AIRecruitment #RecruitmentTechnology #RecruitmentEntrepreneur #Leadership #CompanyCulture #7XPartners
49 MIN
OCT 5, 2026
EP341: Building a PROPA Lifestyle Business in Recruitment - Sophie Booth, Co-Owner, We Are PROPA
In this episode of The Recruiter’s Recruitment Podcast, host Lysha Holmes chats with Sophie Booth, co-founder of We Are PROPA, about recruitment, entrepreneurship, building a business around your life, and why the traditional recruitment model is changing. Sophie shares her journey into recruitment and the personal circumstances that ultimately led her to launch a business with Sarah Hardy. They discuss the realities of balancing recruitment leadership with life outside work, the importance of flexibility, and why building a “lifestyle business” can be something to be proud of. Sophie explains how Hardy Booth evolved into We Are PROPA after recognising that property recruitment was where their expertise, clients and passion naturally aligned. She also talks about the thinking behind the rebrand, the PROPA framework — Pursuit, Reality, Options, Pinpoint and Actions — and how it reflects their more strategic approach to recruitment and people consulting. The conversation also explores the impact of recent changes to tenants’ rights and employment legislation on property businesses, including changing workforce requirements, property management recruitment and the challenges facing independent landlords. There’s plenty of discussion around why transactional recruitment is becoming less relevant, the value of genuine consultation, attraction, hiring, onboarding and retention, and how recruiters can build deeper relationships with clients. And, of course, Sophie and Lysha talk about We Are PROPA’s brilliantly entertaining social media content, networking, personal branding and the importance of finding the right people around you when building a business. 🔗 Connect with the guest Sophie Booth: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sophiepropa/ We Are PROPA: https://www.wearepropa.com/ 🔗 Connect with the host Lysha Holmes: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lyshaholmesr2r/ Qui Recruitment: https://www.quirecruitment.co.uk/ The Recruiter’s Recruitment Podcast is proud to be part of the Recruitment Podcast Network: https://recruitmentpodcastnetwork.com Follow the podcast on YouTube, Spotify and Apple Podcasts: https://www.youtube.com/@therecruitersrecruitmentpod https://the-recruiters-recruitment-podcast.captivate.fm/ —————— The Recruiter's Recruitment Podcast is proudly sponsored by Paiger and Atlas, and partnered with Bristow & Hardy and Keybridge IT Solutions. Our sponsors: Paiger - Making Recruiters Smarter and Faster. Paiger helps recruiters build personal brands, identify new business opportunities, attract candidates, and have better conversations. Find out more about Paiger: https://paiger.co/ Atlas - Imagine a recruitment platform that was built from the ground up using the latest in generative AI technology. A platform that combines your favourite 10 tools into one simple UI with perfect integration out of the box. Imagine all your mundane tasks automated. The result? You'll generate 50% more revenue. Find out more about Atlas: https://recruitwithatlas.com/ Our partners: Bristow & Hardy partners with SME recruitment agencies to accelerate growth through sales enablement and recruitment marketing. With over 7 years’ experience, we specialise exclusively in the recruitment sector, delivering strategy, branding, websites, marketing campaigns, and sales support. Our proven growth suite of products helps agencies attract more clients, win more business, and scale efficiently. https://www.bristowandhardy.co.uk/ Keybridge IT Solutions is a London-based Fully Managed IT Support and solutions Provider - Providing 24×7 Support to all Customers. Specialities include Microsoft Cloud, including Office 365, Microsoft 365, Microsoft Azure, Security, Internet Connectivity, VoIP, and much more. https://www.keybridgeit.com/ #Recruitment #RecruitmentPodcast #RecruitmentBusiness #RecruitmentLeadership #PropertyRecruitment #RecruitmentEntrepreneur #Entrepreneurship #LifestyleBusiness #WeArePROPA #RecruitmentStrategy
37 MIN
SEP 28, 2026
EP340: People, Passion & Profit - Jo Gregory, Recruitment Training & Growth Advisor, CEO & Founder
Lysha Holmes welcomes back Jo Gregory to the Recruiter’s Recruitment Podcast for a wide-ranging conversation about where recruitment is heading, how recruiters can stay relevant in an AI-enabled world, and what it really takes to build high-performing recruitment businesses. This episode explores why recruitment remains a people business, even as technology transforms how we work. Jo shares her perspective on using AI to enhance rather than replace human skills, why transactional CV-sending is becoming increasingly outdated, and why consultative recruitment, problem-solving and genuine relationships will remain essential. They also dive into the next generation of recruitment talent, including Gen Z and the future Gen Alpha workforce. What skills should recruiters be developing? How can businesses attract younger talent without trying to turn them into copies of existing recruiters? And why are coachability, curiosity, emotional intelligence and communication becoming increasingly important? Jo also discusses building high-performance teams, blended learning, recruitment and retention, creating stronger cultures and why founders should focus on maximising the people they already have rather than simply increasing headcount. Beyond recruitment, Jo talks about her work with The Hummingbird Project and its “Freetail” movement, exploring purpose, giving back and how lessons from building high-growth businesses can translate into the charity sector. 🔗 Connect with the guest Jo Gregory: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jogregory/ The Hummingbird Project: https://hummingbirdhubs.co.uk/ Baby Bank Alliance: https://babybankalliance.org/ i-intro: https://www.i-intro.com/ Add your “placement song” to our playlist — the more, the better! https://open.spotify.com/playlist/0MJf3d4gnZNeBjtPqhAfrW 🔗 Connect with the host Lysha Holmes: https://www.linkedin.com/in/lyshaholmesr2r/ Qui Recruitment: https://www.quirecruitment.co.uk/ The Recruiter’s Recruitment Podcast is proud to be part of the Recruitment Podcast Network: https://recruitmentpodcastnetwork.com Follow the podcast on YouTube, Spotify and Apple Podcasts: https://www.youtube.com/@therecruitersrecruitmentpod https://the-recruiters-recruitment-podcast.captivate.fm/ —————— The Recruiter's Recruitment Podcast is proudly sponsored by Paiger and Atlas, and partnered with Bristow & Hardy and Keybridge IT Solutions. Our sponsors: Paiger - Making Recruiters Smarter and Faster. Paiger helps recruiters build personal brands, identify new business opportunities, attract candidates, and have better conversations. Find out more about Paiger: https://paiger.co/ Atlas - Imagine a recruitment platform that was built from the ground up using the latest in generative AI technology. A platform that combines your favourite 10 tools into one simple UI with perfect integration out of the box. Imagine all your mundane tasks automated. The result? You'll generate 50% more revenue. Find out more about Atlas: https://recruitwithatlas.com/ Our partners: Bristow & Hardy partners with SME recruitment agencies to accelerate growth through sales enablement and recruitment marketing. With over 7 years’ experience, we specialise exclusively in the recruitment sector, delivering strategy, branding, websites, marketing campaigns, and sales support. Our proven growth suite of products helps agencies attract more clients, win more business, and scale efficiently. https://www.bristowandhardy.co.uk/ Keybridge IT Solutions is a London-based Fully Managed IT Support and solutions Provider - Providing 24×7 Support to all Customers. Specialities include Microsoft Cloud, including Office 365, Microsoft 365, Microsoft Azure, Security, Internet Connectivity, VoIP, and much more. https://www.keybridgeit.com/ #Recruitment #RecruitmentIndustry #RecruitmentPodcast #AI #FutureOfRecruitment #GenZ #RecruitmentTraining #TalentAcquisition #Leadership #HighPerformance #RecruitmentTech
48 MIN