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The ReForge Podcast
Chang Robotics
Reindustrialize? There's No Re About It (with Jack Watson) | ReForge 024
SEP 3, 202634 MIN
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Description
In this episode, Matthew Chang and Colin Russ talk with Jack Watson (Business Development Manager at HFW Industries) about thermal spray coatings, the engineering knowledge that walked out of corporate America, and why the Rust Belt is a better bet than its reputation suggests.
If you care about manufacturing, thermal spray, industrial reliability, workforce training, the Rust Belt, or reindustrialization, this one is for you.
What we cover
Four generations at HFW Industries, starting with his great-grandfather Harold in 1947, and what the name actually stands for
What thermal spray coating does, and how it takes a rolling mill component from four months between teardowns to two years
Matt's walkthrough of the Buffalo plant, the robotic thermal spray cell, and the HVOF systems a SpaceX engineer confirmed are essentially rocket engines
Why corporate engineering teams went from hundreds of people to a handful, and how partners like HFW absorbed that materials and process knowledge
The reliability and uptime case: why buying industry-standard equipment and partnering on coatings beats specifying exotic metallurgy up front
Rust Belt advantages nobody markets: affordability, access to water and natural gas, proximity to most of North America's population, and a coworker who bought a house at 26
Retaining university graduates, and what Columbus did that Buffalo, Erie, Cleveland, and Detroit can copy
Why heavy industry has to show what is behind the walls if it expects anyone to apply
Jack's blunt take that most industrial training in America is failing, what a real four-year apprenticeship looked like at HFW in the 1970s, and why not every hire pans out
The three-quarter-million-dollar spray shop upgrade and technical ceramics as the next frontier for turbines, electronics, and semiconductor work
Chapters
00:00 Welcome and Guest Intro
02:11 HFW Origins and Legacy
05:32 Factory Tour and Thermal Spray
09:37 Why OEMs Need Partners
14:28 Rust Belt Revival Advantages
27:16 Workforce Training and Wrap Up
Hosts: Matthew Chang and Colin Russ
Guest: Jack Watson, Business Development Manager at HFW Industries
Find Jack Watson:
https://www.linkedin.com/in/jackwatson22/
Find HFW Industries:
https://hfwindustries.com/ | https://www.linkedin.com/company/hfw-industries-inc-/
Find Matthew Chang:
https://x.com/MatthewChang | https://www.instagram.com/the.matthewchang | https://www.linkedin.com/in/matthewachang/ | https://www.tiktok.com/@the.matthewchang
Find Colin Russ:
https://x.com/ThaaatColin | https://www.linkedin.com/in/colinruss/
Find Chang Robotics: https://changrobotics.ai
Resources mentioned
Seven Steps to Reindustrialize America: https://www.thereforgepodcast.com/7steps
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About ReForge
ReForge is a podcast featuring conversations with the leaders reindustrializing America.
This show exists to prove American reindustrialization is possible, pivotal, and pressing.
Hosted by Matthew Chang and Colin Russ.
Produced by Chang Robotics.

