The Resilience Room

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Welcome to The Resilience Room, where cyber professionals sit back and chat about their lives, passions and experiences. We discuss cyber culture, thought leadership, technical topics and emerging trends. Hosted by Sam Dickison, Community Manager at Immersive.

Recent Episodes

SEP 8, 2026
The AI Debt Bubble, Concentration Risk, and Stranded Assets
In this episode of The Resilience Room, Sam sits down with Corey Ray (Lead Intelligence Analyst) and Rob Klentzeris (Senior Application Security Engineer) to unpack the massive, debt-funded infrastructure boom driving the current AI race. Corey and Rob explain why traditional financial risk metrics fail when evaluating private AI titans, and how this unprecedented CapEx spending impacts enterprise risk models. The conversation tackles the hidden dangers of "concentration risk" in the AI supply chain, and why increased regulation might inadvertently force a monopoly by pricing out smaller competitors. The trio also draws striking parallels between today's AI data center rush and the 19th-century railroad bubble, introducing the critical concept of "stranded assets"—the devastating local and economic impact if these massive infrastructure and energy grid investments become obsolete. Finally, they discuss the race to build AI "super apps," the strategy behind vendor lock-in, and where value investors should actually be looking (hint: it's the sci-fi-level hardware and chip fabricators like ASML and TSMC, not necessarily the frontier models). Topics covered: AI debt financing and financial risk, the AI infrastructure bubble, concentration risk in enterprise tech, regulatory capture, stranded assets and local economies, AI super apps and vendor lock-in, and value investing in the semiconductor supply chain (Nvidia, TSMC, ASML).
38 MIN
AUG 11, 2026
Building a Black Belt Purple Team: AI, Shadow IT & Cyber Resilience ft. Kev Marriott
In this episode, Sam sits down with Kev Marriott, a seasoned security professional who spent nearly two decades at British Telecom before finding his passion in incident management and cyber security. Kev shares his journey from handling customer escalations to managing major security crises and playbooks for critical national infrastructure. The conversation dives deep into the concept of "Purple Teaming" — breaking down the walls between offensive Red Teams and defensive Blue Teams. Kev explains why this collaborative approach is no longer optional, but essential for elevating an organization's baseline security posture, reducing response friction, and truly understanding the why behind an attacker's movements. They also tackle the unique challenges brought on by the AI era, including the rise of "Shadow AI" and the rapidly shrinking timelines from compromise to exfiltration. Kev offers a grounded perspective on AI, discussing how organizations can safely govern its use, secure their supply chains, and leverage AI to automate manual tasks so security teams can focus on proactive threat hunting. Topics covered: transitioning into cyber security, the fundamentals of Purple Teaming, Red vs. Blue team dynamics, shadow AI and governance, supply chain security, the evolution of vulnerability management, and why building cyber muscle memory is a lot like training for an MMA black belt.
44 MIN
JUL 28, 2026
Decoding Cyber Readiness and Building True Resilience | The Resilience Room ft. Abe Burnett & Corey Ray
In this episode of The Resilience Room, Sam sits down with Abe Burnett and Corey Ray to explore the critical intersections of data science, geopolitical risk, and modern cyber security. Drawing from his extensive background in data analytics and machine learning, Abe discusses how AI acts as a tool for building compelling, narrative-driven risk reports that go far beyond standard tables and charts. Meanwhile, Corey shares insights from his geopolitical risk background, emphasizing the importance of prioritizing threats in a world increasingly defined by black swan events and vendor concentration. The conversation defines the crucial difference between readiness—the preparation done before chaos strikes—and resilience, which is the ability to thrive through disruption. They tackle the realities of modern cyber security maturity, exploring why a deep organizational bench is critical because businesses must go to battle with the team they have on the day, not the team they want. The group also dives into the dangers of complacency, skill atrophy, and the necessity of holistic, live-fire training (coined "Cyber Pilates") over isolated checkbox exercises. Topics covered: data science and AI in cyber security, managing geopolitical risk, defining readiness versus resilience, overcoming skill entropy, building a deep organizational bench, peer benchmarking, and holistic live-fire training.
61 MIN