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Welcome to the Small Bow Podcast. I’m your host, A.J. Daulerio. This is a show about expanding the definition of recovery, where we talk to writers, entertainers, recovering addicts, recovering jerks, and even the occasional normal person — about their struggles with love, sex, money, loneliness, shame, grief, drugs, alcohol, ego, identity, fame, and other fun things. Whatever is bringing you down, you might find something here that you didn’t know you needed. In addition to this podcast, the Small Bow is also a newsletter and recovery community that I started in 2018 to chronicle my own path toward sobriety and sanity following multiple rehab stints and a very public ordeal in which I was a co-defendant in Gawker's groundbreaking legal trial against professional wrestler Hulk Hogan for publishing a portion of his sex tape. A Florida jury voted in favor of Hogan and awarded him $115 million, which bankrupted the company and torched my former life. But out of the ashes of that ordeal grew the Small Bow. If you like what we do, consider subscribing to our newsletter and joining our community. We publish essays, interviews and other musings on recovery, and have online recovery support meetings seven days a week. Sign up for the Small Bow newsletter & community at: http://www.thesmallbow.com IG: @smallbowmedia

Recent Episodes

OCT 28, 2026
How Could I Be An Addict If My Dad Is Dr. Drew? | Paulina Pinsky
Writer Paulina Pinsky hasn’t always known what it meant to be “right-sized.” As the daughter of TV’s Dr. Drew, Paulina struggled to understand how she was meant to perform for the public, especially when it came to the parts of her story that undermined her father’s persona. In this episode, we sit down for a conversation about disordered eating, body neutrality, the role her dad played in her recovery and why she no longer feels she needs to answer for his sins. The central theme here is self-esteem: what it is, where it comes from and why it’s so hard to maintain. 00:00:00 Finding recovery and surrender at a Christmas Eve meeting 00:01:27 Paulina Pinsky, self-esteem, and practicing body neutrality 00:05:27 Unlearning body shame across generations 00:11:56 Eating disorder history and compulsive behavior 00:16:07 Modern diet culture and weight loss drugs 00:20:48 Growing up as Dr. Drew's daughter 00:24:05 The View interview, viral fallout, and shaving her head 00:28:22 Setting boundaries and family public perception 00:32:13 Gift of desperation and recovery gratitude 00:37:36 Navigating public expectations and online comments 00:41:05 Nepo baby humor, art, and public service 00:45:23 Understanding fame versus genuine human intimacy Topics: Defining self-esteem as accurate self-appraisal and being right-sized Practicing body neutrality over commercialized body positivity Unlearning inherited body shame and chronic self-judgment Overcoming bulimia and the realities of adolescent diet culture Surrendering in early sobriety and hitting a Christmas Eve meeting Navigating life and public identity as Dr. Drew's daughter The viral fallout of going on The View with Barbara Walters at 21 Setting healthy family boundaries and refusing to answer for internet backlash Differentiating between public fame and genuine interpersonal intimacy #PaulinaPinsky #DrDrew #BodyNeutrality #EatingDisorderRecovery #AccurateSelfAppraisal #RightSizedRecovery #EarlySobriety #FamilyBoundaries #DetachWithLove #PerformativeWellness #FameVsIntimacy #NepoBaby #Recovery #CancelCulture" New episodes release every Wednesday. ➡️ Subscribe to The Small Bow Podcast YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TheSmallBow?sub_confirmation=1 ➡️ Join The Small Bow Community: https://www.thesmallbow.com/ ➡️ Get the latest on The Small Bow: https://linktr.ee/THESMALLBOW ➡️ Download The Small Bow Podcast on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-small-bow-podcast/id1576208098
54 MIN
OCT 21, 2026
Pat Croce Doesn’t Have Bad Days
If you would have told me thirty years ago that I’d be interviewing former 76’ers Team President Pat Croce about Zen Buddhism, I would have said you were crazy. But here we are. If you followed Philly sports in the 1990’s, you knew Pat Croce as the high-flying architect of the Sixers turnaround that rallied the city around a team of underdogs. These days, Pat has turned into a full-on seeker, committing to Zen Buddhism and spreading a message of love with his trademark energy and enthusiasm. We talk about this shift and how a recent cancer diagnosis changed his perspective on life and inspired him to climb Everest on chemo. Plus, Pat gives me advice on how to support my daughter’s desire to jump off a cliff in Moab. 00:00:00 Bad days and finding a still mind with Pat Croce 00:03:54 Discussing health diagnoses and spiritual understanding 00:07:01 The airplane quote that changed everything about the mind 00:11:15 Exploring positive energy exchange and human connection 00:14:16 Handling the urge to blame and practicing mindful release 00:19:37 The finger pointing to the moon and finding the gap 00:24:16 Addressing suffering, depression, and the nature of love 00:31:18 Fearlessness versus recklessness in parenting and adventure 00:41:12 Reframing grief, vulnerability, and true invincibility 00:47:01 Finding practical usefulness and freedom beyond wealth 00:54:02 Reimagining success and investing presence in the now 00:56:19 Redefining what a bad day looks like Topics: Pat Croce shares his perspective on redefining a bad day through a still mind Waldenstrom's bone marrow cancer diagnosis and daily treatment How an airplane article by Pico Iyer sparked a 12-year spiritual shift Embracing the Japanese tea ceremony metaphor and the way of the cigar Overcoming the urge to blame using the RAIN mindfulness principle Exploring the Buddhist and Bruce Lee concept of the finger pointing to the moon Fearlessness and recklessness when parenting and planning adventures Reframing grief, vulnerability, and why vulnerability equals invincibility Addressing cynicism and finding practical usefulness in spiritual growth Success as investing presence and enthusiasm into the present moment #PatCroce #EnjoyYourselfNow #Waldenstroms #MindsetShift #SpiritualAwakening #FingerPointingToTheMoon #Consciousness #ZenMind #BungeeJumping #personaltransformation New episodes release every Wednesday. ➡️ Subscribe to The Small Bow Podcast YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TheSmallBow?sub_confirmation=1 ➡️ Join The Small Bow Community: https://www.thesmallbow.com/ ➡️ Get the latest on The Small Bow: https://linktr.ee/THESMALLBOW ➡️ Download The Small Bow Podcast on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-small-bow-podcast/id1576208098
56 MIN
OCT 14, 2026
How To Talk About Death With Famous People | David Marchese
Please Note: This video discusses heavy themes, including suicide and mental health struggles. If you are experiencing distress, please utilize the free, confidential resources below. United States & Canada: Call or text 988 to reach the Suicide & Crisis Lifeline. International: Find free, immediate support lines specific to your country at https://findahelpline.com David Marchese talked to Sir Anthony Hopkins about his estrangement from his father and Eddie Vedder about the death of a friend. As co-host of The Interview for the New York Times, David gets to sit down with some of the most interesting and prominent people and ask them… whatever he wants. In this conversation, we talk about why being an interviewer is not like therapy and how being vulnerable is the best way to get even the biggest celebrities to open up. Plus, what David has learned from conversations with Lou Reed, David Lynch, Norm Macdonald and many more. 00:00:00 Approaching hard conversations and the art of professional bravery 00:04:26 Surviving a brutal early career interview with Lou Reed 00:09:12 Industry landscapes from spin magazine to the new york times 00:13:21 Prioritizing genuine personal curiosity over generic audience questions 00:18:07 Bonding with eddie vedder and fan-driven interviews 00:23:30 Developing lasting friendships with people he interviews 00:29:18 Family estrangement after the Anthony Hopkins interview 00:35:20 Vulnerability and the unpredictable nature of viral moments 00:46:36 Complex grief of suicide, illness, and a father's passing 00:58:16 Childhood toxicity and the absence of closure 01:01:08 Transcendental meditation to transform intrusive thoughts 01:04:15 Finding inspiration in David Lynch and the path to self-discovery Topics: Bravery in conducting tough interviews Lessons from interviewing Lou Reed Evolution from Spin to NYT interviewing Asking questions from personal curiosity Connecting with Eddie Vedder on loss Friendship with comedian Norm Macdonald Processing family estrangement Going viral with Eminem and Quincy Jones Navigating personal grief and mortality Transcendental meditation for mind #DavidMarchese #InterviewTechniques #NewYorkTimes #GriefAndLoss #TranscendentalMeditation #FamilyEstrangement #LouReed #EddieVedder #mentalhealthawareness New episodes release every Wednesday. ➡️ Subscribe to The Small Bow Podcast YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TheSmallBow?sub_confirmation=1 ➡️ Join The Small Bow Community: https://www.thesmallbow.com/ ➡️ Get the latest on The Small Bow: https://linktr.ee/THESMALLBOW ➡️ Download The Small Bow Podcast on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-small-bow-podcast/id1576208098
62 MIN
OCT 7, 2026
“The Ground Hurts” | Hard Lessons with Comedian Nick Thune
From a rehab that burned down to a fall from a second story window, Nick Thune has escaped death many times. He’s found a way to tell his story that makes space for the terror he felt in the depths of addiction and the compassion he now feels for the person he used to be. Nick spins a good yarn, and there’s a lot of those in this episode— featuring broken limbs, petting babies, gang leaders, and much more. Plus, we talk about how to raise a child who lives without fear (in a good way). 00:00:00 Early rehab, fighting, and the padded room 00:05:08 Getting expelled and surviving high school 00:10:27 Late night habits and early drinking culture 00:15:30 Malibu fires and finding alcohol in the evacuation house 00:20:18 Transitioning out of treatment and facing real life temptations 00:26:07 Dealing with health consequences and long term lung damage 00:30:46 Opioid withdrawal in Kenya and dangerous tour injuries 00:35:30 Standup comedy on pain pills and performing post injury 00:39:24 Writing comedy in treatment and severe panic attacks 00:44:16 Parenting through recovery and teaching accountability 00:48:51 Postponing emotional pain and shameful bender stories 00:51:12 Finding peace in fatherhood and balancing work travel Topics: Long-term recovery and managing addiction Comedy as an early recovery analogue Physical impacts of severe alcoholism Navigating pill use and opiate withdrawal Surviving relapse and second rehabilitation Nicotine dependency and chewing tobacco Parenting and fatherhood as sobriety anchors Engagement with AA meetings and sponsees Managing mental health through therapy Overcoming character defects and growth #NickThune #AddictionRecovery #SoberLife #FatherhoodInRecovery #MentalHealthMatters #12StepRecovery #SoberComedian #PersonalGrowth #overcomingaddiction New episodes release every Wednesday. ➡️ Subscribe to The Small Bow Podcast YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TheSmallBow?sub_confirmation=1 ➡️ Join The Small Bow Community: https://www.thesmallbow.com/ ➡️ Get the latest on The Small Bow: https://linktr.ee/THESMALLBOW ➡️ Download The Small Bow Podcast on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-small-bow-podcast/id1576208098
84 MIN
SEP 30, 2026
I Was an Oddball Who Wanted to Be Loved | Rainn Wilson
Rainn Wilson is best-known for his role as Dwight Schrute on The Office and his Soul Boom Podcast. He’s a serious, thoughtful guy who had the strange experience of becoming an international celebrity almost overnight. We talk about how the experience of sudden fame dovetailed with his addiction and how AA and a return to his Bahai faith have helped him to find his footing again. Plus, we discuss his recent OCD diagnosis, why he’s grateful for the worst box office bomb of his career and the strangest gift he’s received from a fan. 00:00:00 From childhood loneliness to an iconic TV role 00:04:44 Pushing past surface acting into deep character work 00:09:33 Finding gratitude in the wake of box office bombs 00:14:19 Navigating hollywood perception and true movie stardom 00:19:08 Confronting fame and the Dwight Schrute identity trap 00:23:56 Unpacking late onset OCD and mental hijacking 00:28:45 Rewiring danger centers through exposure response therapy 00:33:30 Anchoring recovery through daily bahai prayer 00:38:15 Overcoming workaholism, shame, and constant pressure 00:43:02 Navigating the line of healthy creative ambition 00:47:51 Evolving from actor to modern spiritual storyteller 00:52:39 Sharing personal stories to help others heal Topics: Unpacking late onset OCD and brain loops Using exposure response therapy for ocd Managing mental hijacking and anxiety Practicing daily surrender in 12 steps Strengthening recovery with bahai prayer Balancing creative ambition and work Overcoming workaholism and high pressure Decoding the illusion of hollywood fame Evolving from actor to modern storyteller Sharing personal stories to help heal #RainnWilson #SoulBoom #MentalHijacking #ExposureResponseTherapy #LateOnsetOCD #DailySurrender #CreativeAmbition #WorkaholismRecovery #HollywoodFame #BahaiPrayer #EmotionalSobriety #storytellerlife New episodes release every Wednesday. ➡️ Subscribe to The Small Bow Podcast YouTube: https://www.youtube.com/@TheSmallBow?sub_confirmation=1 ➡️ Join The Small Bow Community: https://www.thesmallbow.com/ ➡️ Get the latest on The Small Bow: https://linktr.ee/THESMALLBOW ➡️ Download The Small Bow Podcast on Apple Podcasts: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-small-bow-podcast/id1576208098
58 MIN