Joel Van Dyk, a physicist and longtime Wall Street cybersecurity leader

In this episode, host Yuval Boger sits down with Joel Van Dyk, a physicist and longtime Wall Street cybersecurity leader who now consults in the post-quantum cryptography space, including work with Project Eleven on a ground-up PQC key management system and his own quantum proxy venture, PQC Done. Van Dyk argues that while a cryptologically relevant quantum computer could arrive within four to five years, organizations need cryptoagility — the muscle to rapidly rotate algorithms — rather than a one-time fix, and he ranks the quantum threat as second only to AI among CISO priorities. The conversation covers practical guidance on selecting partners, bridging quantum security and quantum computing teams within an enterprise, the role of cloud providers in accelerating migration, and Van Dyk's nuanced take on quantum key distribution.