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Think Like a Vegan
Emilia Leese
Ep 34: Nature Has No Borders: The Controversial Science of Invasion Ecology
MAY 1, 202651 MIN
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Description
Join me for a provocative conversation with brothers Vasile and James Stănescu as we deconstruct the common yet charged concept of "invasive species." Moving beyond a simplified view of nature, we explore how the rhetoric of "invasion ecology" creates a violent foundation justifying perpetual war against certain animals.
Drawing from their contributions to the critical book, The Ethics and Rhetoric of Invasion Ecology, James and Vasile unpack the real-world consequences of this ideology. Vasile illustrates the cyclical failure of "management," where killing one species leads to an explosion in another, forcing us to ask: why must nature be violated in order to protect it? James, one of the book's editors, examines the militarized language and apocalyptic tone used to describe non-native species, which in turn dictates a response of total eradication—a hyperbolic reaction to hyperbolic communication.
This episode challenges the sanitized ideal of a pristine wilderness and delves into the ethical costs of this worldview for both human and non-human animals. Tune in for a deep dive into the intersection of language, ecology, and animal liberation.
Website/Socials & Books:
Vasile Stǎnescu
Website: How we win https://www.winforanimals.org
Podcast: How we win https://www.winforanimals.org/how-we-win-podcast
Instagram: @professional.vegan
Article: "How Industrial Slaughter Became the Blueprint for Modern Capitalism" https://www.currentaffairs.org/news/how-industrial-slaughter-became-the-blueprint-for-modern-capitalism
James Stǎnescu
Website: https://www.criticalanimal.com
Book: The Ethics and Rhetoric of Invasion Ecology (Lexington Books, 2017)
Other links
Banu Subramanian, "The Aliens Have Landed! Reflections on the Rhetoric of Biological Invasions" https://www.jstor.org/stable/40338794
Emi Leese
https://emilialeese.substack.com
http://thinklikeavegan.com
http://emilialeese.com
Instagram @emi.leese
YouTube https://www.youtube.com/@thinklikeavegan/videos
Credits
Host: Emilia A. Leese
Guest: Vasile Stǎnescu and James Stǎnescu
Production & Engineering: Jim Moore of Bloody Vegans Productions; https://www.bloodyvegansproductions.com
Graphics: Catherine Dorrell https://www.messyvegancook.com
Music
Opening theme: “Flashbacks” by Jenny Moore’s Mystic Business
Interlude: "Ōuda Afternoon I" music by Matthew Gerstenberger, voice by Chiyako
Closing theme: “Tear Things Up” by Jenny Moore’s Mystic Business
This podcast is part of iROAR, the Animals Podcasting Network https://iroarpod.com

