Ungovernable Misfits

<p>A weekly live show covering all things Freedom Tech with Max, Q and Seth.<br /><br /><p><strong>HELP GET SAMOURAI A PARDON</strong><ul><li>SIGN THE PETITION ----&gt; <a href="https://www.change.org/p/stand-up-for-freedom-pardon-the-innocent-coders-jailed-for-building-privacy-tools" target="_blank">https://www.change.org/p/stand-up-for-freedom-pardon-the-innocent-coders-jailed-for-building-privacy-tools</a>&nbsp;</li><li>DONATE TO THE FAMILIES ----&gt; <a href="https://www.givesendgo.com/billandkeonne" target="_blank">https://www.givesendgo.com/billandkeonne</a></li><li>SUPPORT ON SOCIAL MEDIA ---&gt; <a href="https://billandkeonne.org/" target="_blank">https://billandkeonne.org/</a></li></ul></p><br />TO DONATE TO ROMAN'S DEFENSE FUND: <a href="https://freeromanstorm.com/donate" target="_blank">https://freeromanstorm.com/donate</a><br /><br /><p><strong>VALUE FOR VALUE</strong><br /><br />Thanks for listening you Ungovernable Misfits, we appreciate your continued support and hope you enjoy the shows.<br /><br />You can support this episode using your time, talent or treasure.<br /><br /><strong>TIME</strong>:<br /><br />- create fountain clips for the show<br />- create a meetup<br />- help boost the signal on social media<br /><br /><strong>TALENT</strong>:<br /><br />- create ungovernable misfit inspired art, animation or music<br />- design or implement some software that can make the podcast better<br />- use whatever talents you have to make a contribution to the show!<br /><br /><strong>TREASURE</strong>:<br /><br />- BOOST IT OR STREAM SATS on the Podcasting 2.0 apps @ <a href="https://podcastapps.com" target="_blank">https://podcastapps.com</a><br />- DONATE via Monero @ <a href="https://xmrchat.com/ugmf" target="_blank">https://xmrchat.com/ugmf</a><br />- BUY SOME STICKERS @ <a href="https://www.ungovernablemisfits.com/shop/" target="_blank">https://www.ungovernablemisfits.com/shop/</a></p><br /><p><strong>FOUNDATION<br /><br /></strong><a href="https://foundation.xyz/ungovernable" target="_blank"><strong>https://foundation.xyz/ungovernable</strong></a><br /><br />Foundation builds Bitcoin-centric tools that empower you to reclaim your digital sovereignty.<br /><br />As a sovereign computing company, Foundation is the antithesis of today’s tech conglomerates. Returning to cypherpunk principles, they build open source technology that “can’t be evil”.<br /><br />Thank you Foundation Devices for sponsoring the show!<br /><br /><strong>Use code: Ungovernable for $10 off of your purchase</strong></p><br /><p><strong>CAKE WALLET</strong><br /><br /><a href="https://cakewallet.com" target="_blank"><strong>https://cakewallet.com</strong></a><br /><br />Cake Wallet is an open-source, non-custodial wallet available on Android, iOS, macOS, and Linux.<br /><br /><strong>Features</strong>:<br />- Built-in Exchange: Swap easily between Bitcoin and Monero.<br />- User-Friendly: Simple interface for all users.<br /><br /><strong>Monero Users:</strong><br />- Batch Transactions: Send multiple payments at once.<br />- Faster Syncing: Optimized syncing via specified restore heights<br />- Proxy Support: Enhance privacy with proxy node options.<br /><br /><strong>Bitcoin Users:</strong><br />- Coin Control: Manage your transactions effectively.<br />- Silent Payments: Static bitcoin addresses<br />- Batch Transactions: Streamline your payment process.<br /><br /><strong>Thank you Cake Wallet for sponsoring the show!</strong></p><br /><p><strong>MYNYMBOX<br /><br /></strong><a href="https://mynymbox.io" target="_blank">https://mynymbox.io</a><br /><br />Your go-to for anonymous server hosting solutions, featuring: virtual private &amp; dedicated servers, domain registration and DNS parking. We don't require any of your personal information, and you can purchase using Bitcoin, Lightning, Monero and many other cryptos.<br /><br />Explore benefits such as No KYC, complete privacy &amp; security, and human support.</p></p>

<p>In these episodes, Max and John read Keonne’s recent letters written from FPC Morgantown. The aim in sharing this is simple: amplify Keonne’s story, support him and Bill, and ensure help reaches their families. If his voice isn’t your thing, the full text is linked in the show notes—please read, listen, and share. Consider sending a letter, a book via an approved retailer, or some sats. Your support matters, and together we can keep their stories alive and make a tangible difference.<br /><br /><a href="https://www.therage.co/letter-2-keonne-rodriguez/" target="_blank">LINK TO THE LETTER AT THE RAGE</a><br /><br /><strong><em>Write to Keonne:<br /></em></strong><br /><br /><strong><em>Keonne Rodriguez<br />11404-511<br />FPC Morgantown<br />FEDERAL PRISON CAMP<br />P.O. BOX 1000<br />MORGANTOWN, WV 26507<br /></em></strong><br /><br /><strong><em>Mailing Guidelines:<br /></em></strong><br /><br /><strong><em>Please note: You can only send letters (no more than 3 pages long). No packages or other items are allowed. Books, magazines, and newspapers must be sent directly from the publisher or an online retailer like Amazon. All letters must include a full return address and sender name to be delivered.<br /></em></strong><br /><br /><p><strong>HELP GET SAMOURAI A PARDON</strong><ul><li>SIGN THE PETITION ----&gt; <a href="https://www.change.org/p/stand-up-for-freedom-pardon-the-innocent-coders-jailed-for-building-privacy-tools" target="_blank">https://www.change.org/p/stand-up-for-freedom-pardon-the-innocent-coders-jailed-for-building-privacy-tools</a>&nbsp;</li><li>DONATE TO THE FAMILIES ----&gt; <a href="https://www.givesendgo.com/billandkeonne" target="_blank">https://www.givesendgo.com/billandkeonne</a></li><li>SUPPORT ON SOCIAL MEDIA ---&gt; <a href="https://billandkeonne.org/" target="_blank">https://billandkeonne.org/</a></li></ul></p></p>

<p>In this special series, Max shares why we’re hosting and preserving the Unbounded archive at Ungovernable Misfits. In the third re-release of the series, Seth For Privacy — educator, builder and VP at Cake Wallet joins TBD. <br /><br />Seth brings a candid, practical nuance to the state of Bitcoin and Monero, the realities of social media and education, and what “good enough privacy” means for everyday people versus targeted dissidents. Seth and TBD dig into saving in Bitcoin, spending in Monero, the impact of the Samourai Wallet case, why PayJoin V2 and silent payments matter, and how adoption—not tribalism—will determine the future of digital sovereignty. <br /><br />Seth shares a pragmatic optimism: we’re winning in usability and tooling, but only if we keep building, learning and refusing false binaries. We explore the current crossroads for Bitcoin privacy, the legal chill from Tornado Cash/Samourai prosecutions, Nostr versus X for reach, and Monero’s resilience amid delistings. <br /><br />Seth outlines practical advice for non-technical users, red lines for builders, and his long-view goal: tools that let individuals opt out of broken systems and into freedom—no permission required. <br /><br />Stay resilient, and enjoy the series as we continue with Pavel and Colonial in the weeks ahead.<br /><br />TWITTER: <a href="https://x.com/TheUNBOUNDEDPod" target="_blank">https://x.com/TheUNBOUNDEDPod</a><br />YOUTUBE: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@TheUnboundedPodcast" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/@TheUnboundedPodcast</a><br /><br /><p>(00:00:00) <a href="https://x.com/TheUNBOUNDEDPod" target="_blank" >Thank You TBD</a></p><p>(00:01:41) <a href="https://www.youtube.com/@TheUnboundedPodcast" target="_blank" >INTRO</a></p><p>(00:02:30) <a href="https://sethforprivacy.com/" target="_blank" >The Educator Journey</a></p><p>(00:12:29) No Desire For Privacy</p><p>(00:17:16) <a href="https://freedom.tech/" target="_blank" >Freedom Tech Maximalist</a></p><p>(00:21:36) Fork in the Road</p><p>(00:25:05) Winning or Losing?</p><p>(00:30:53) Good-Enough Privacy & Threat Models</p><p>(00:39:55) Real-world Use, On/Off Ramps and Merchant Adoption</p><p>(00:47:40) Saving Bitcoin, Spending Monero</p><p>(00:53:03) <a href="https://cakewallet.com" target="_blank" >PayJoin v2, Silent Payments & Product Adoption</a></p><p>(01:00:28) Red Lines, Legal Risks & Developer Concerns </p><p>(01:10:22) <a href="https://www.getmonero.org/" target="_blank" >Monero's Resilience</a></p><p>(01:17:33) What Will the World Look Like?</p><br /><br /></p>

<p>A weekly live show covering all things Freedom Tech with Max, Q and Seth.<br /><br /><p><strong>HELP GET SAMOURAI A PARDON</strong><ul><li>SIGN THE PETITION ----&gt; <a href="https://www.change.org/p/stand-up-for-freedom-pardon-the-innocent-coders-jailed-for-building-privacy-tools" target="_blank">https://www.change.org/p/stand-up-for-freedom-pardon-the-innocent-coders-jailed-for-building-privacy-tools</a>&nbsp;</li><li>DONATE TO THE FAMILIES ----&gt; <a href="https://www.givesendgo.com/billandkeonne" target="_blank">https://www.givesendgo.com/billandkeonne</a></li><li>SUPPORT ON SOCIAL MEDIA ---&gt; <a href="https://billandkeonne.org/" target="_blank">https://billandkeonne.org/</a></li></ul></p><br />TO DONATE TO ROMAN'S DEFENSE FUND: <a href="https://freeromanstorm.com/donate" target="_blank">https://freeromanstorm.com/donate</a><br /><br /><p><strong>VALUE FOR VALUE</strong><br /><br />Thanks for listening you Ungovernable Misfits, we appreciate your continued support and hope you enjoy the shows.<br /><br />You can support this episode using your time, talent or treasure.<br /><br /><strong>TIME</strong>:<br /><br />- create fountain clips for the show<br />- create a meetup<br />- help boost the signal on social media<br /><br /><strong>TALENT</strong>:<br /><br />- create ungovernable misfit inspired art, animation or music<br />- design or implement some software that can make the podcast better<br />- use whatever talents you have to make a contribution to the show!<br /><br /><strong>TREASURE</strong>:<br /><br />- BOOST IT OR STREAM SATS on the Podcasting 2.0 apps @ <a href="https://podcastapps.com" target="_blank">https://podcastapps.com</a><br />- DONATE via Monero @ <a href="https://xmrchat.com/ugmf" target="_blank">https://xmrchat.com/ugmf</a><br />- BUY SOME STICKERS @ <a href="https://www.ungovernablemisfits.com/shop/" target="_blank">https://www.ungovernablemisfits.com/shop/</a></p><br /><p><strong>FOUNDATION<br /><br /></strong><a href="https://foundation.xyz/ungovernable" target="_blank"><strong>https://foundation.xyz/ungovernable</strong></a><br /><br />Foundation builds Bitcoin-centric tools that empower you to reclaim your digital sovereignty.<br /><br />As a sovereign computing company, Foundation is the antithesis of today’s tech conglomerates. Returning to cypherpunk principles, they build open source technology that “can’t be evil”.<br /><br />Thank you Foundation Devices for sponsoring the show!<br /><br /><strong>Use code: Ungovernable for $10 off of your purchase</strong></p><br /><p><strong>CAKE WALLET</strong><br /><br /><a href="https://cakewallet.com" target="_blank"><strong>https://cakewallet.com</strong></a><br /><br />Cake Wallet is an open-source, non-custodial wallet available on Android, iOS, macOS, and Linux.<br /><br /><strong>Features</strong>:<br />- Built-in Exchange: Swap easily between Bitcoin and Monero.<br />- User-Friendly: Simple interface for all users.<br /><br /><strong>Monero Users:</strong><br />- Batch Transactions: Send multiple payments at once.<br />- Faster Syncing: Optimized syncing via specified restore heights<br />- Proxy Support: Enhance privacy with proxy node options.<br /><br /><strong>Bitcoin Users:</strong><br />- Coin Control: Manage your transactions effectively.<br />- Silent Payments: Static bitcoin addresses<br />- Batch Transactions: Streamline your payment process.<br /><br /><strong>Thank you Cake Wallet for sponsoring the show!</strong></p><br /><p><strong>MYNYMBOX<br /><br /></strong><a href="https://mynymbox.io" target="_blank">https://mynymbox.io</a><br /><br />Your go-to for anonymous server hosting solutions, featuring: virtual private &amp; dedicated servers, domain registration and DNS parking. We don't require any of your personal information, and you can purchase using Bitcoin, Lightning, Monero and many other cryptos.<br /><br />Explore benefits such as No KYC, complete privacy &amp; security, and human support.</p></p>

Max and Q cover the latest happenings in the world of Bitcoin, privacy and much more.&nbsp;<br /><br />AOB<br /><ul><li><a href="https://fountain.fm/episode/JaNUu9bRpKwD1AAtEvCf" target="_blank">Apple FTF</a></li><li><a href="https://www.therage.co/letter-4-notes-from-the-inside/" target="_blank">Letter 4 from Keonne</a></li><li><a href="https://www.change.org/p/stand-up-for-freedom-pardon-the-innocent-coders-jailed-for-building-privacy-tools" target="_blank">15k sigs</a></li></ul><br />NEWS<br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.fox10phoenix.com/news/targeted-scottsdale-home-invasion-linked-alleged-66m-cryptocurrency-plot" target="_blank">Wrench attacks coming to the USA</a></li><li><a href="https://www.ledauphine.com/faits-divers-justice/2026/02/06/cryptomonnaies-une-iseroise-et-sa-mere-enlevees-par-un-commando-avant-d-etre-liberees-30-heures-plus-tard-dans-la-drome" target="_blank">More attacks in France</a> - <a href="https://www.ledauphine.com/faits-divers-justice/2026/02/06/cryptomonnaies-une-iseroise-et-sa-mere-enlevees-par-un-commando-avant-d-etre-liberees-30-heures-plus-tard-dans-la-drome" target="_blank">#2</a></li><li><a href="https://stacker.news/items/1425397" target="_blank">Alby launches Sandbox</a></li><li><a href="https://www.startwithbitcoin.com/" target="_blank">StartwithBitcoin.com</a></li><li><a href="https://x.com/citrea_xyz/status/2016149582942495044?s=20" target="_blank">Citrea mainnet live</a></li><li><a href="https://www.offgrid.cash/en" target="_blank">Offgrid.cash</a></li><li><a href="https://umbrel.com/umbrel-pro" target="_blank">Umbrel Pro</a></li></ul><br />UPDATES/RELEASES<br /><ul><li><a href="https://github.com/bisq-network/bisq-mobile/releases" target="_blank">Bisq Mobile v0.4.0</a></li><li><a href="https://github.com/bisq-network/bisq2/releases" target="_blank">Bisq2 v2.1.9</a></li><li><a href="https://x.com/MostroP2P/status/2019777381775397068?s=20" target="_blank">Mostro v1.1.0 beta</a></li><li><a href="https://github.com/FROSTR-ORG/igloo-desktop/releases/tag/v1.0.3" target="_blank">Igloo Desktop v1.0.3</a></li><li><a href="https://github.com/lnbits/lnbits/releases/tag/v1.4.2" target="_blank">LNBits v1.4.2</a></li><li><a href="https://github.com/Peach2Peach/peach-app/releases" target="_blank">Peach 0.69 (325)</a></li><li><a href="https://github.com/Start9Labs/start-os/releases/tag/v0.4.0-alpha.19" target="_blank">StartOS v0.4.0-alpha</a></li><li><a href="https://github.com/ZeusLN/zeus/releases/tag/v0.12.3" target="_blank">Zeus v0.12.3</a></li></ul>EDUCATION<br /><ul><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgesdYSgPno" target="_blank">BTC Sessions Aqua tutorial</a></li><li><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kp0NbQSnMhE" target="_blank">BTC Sessions Nunchuk tutorial</a></li><li><a href="https://bitcoinmagazine.com/print/the-v2-transport-bitcoin-p2p-traffic-goes-dark" target="_blank">Learn about V2 transport</a></li></ul><br /><p><strong>HELP GET SAMOURAI A PARDON</strong><ul><li>SIGN THE PETITION ----&gt; <a href="https://www.change.org/p/stand-up-for-freedom-pardon-the-innocent-coders-jailed-for-building-privacy-tools" target="_blank">https://www.change.org/p/stand-up-for-freedom-pardon-the-innocent-coders-jailed-for-building-privacy-tools</a>&nbsp;</li><li>DONATE TO THE FAMILIES ----&gt; <a href="https://www.givesendgo.com/billandkeonne" target="_blank">https://www.givesendgo.com/billandkeonne</a></li><li>SUPPORT ON SOCIAL MEDIA ---&gt; <a href="https://billandkeonne.org/" target="_blank">https://billandkeonne.org/</a></li></ul></p><br /><p><strong>VALUE FOR VALUE</strong><br /><br />Thanks for listening you Ungovernable Misfits, we appreciate your continued support and hope you enjoy the shows.<br /><br />You can support this episode using your time, talent or treasure.<br /><br /><strong>TIME</strong>:<br /><br />- create fountain clips for the show<br />- create a meetup<br />- help boost the signal on social media<br /><br /><strong>TALENT</strong>:<br /><br />- create ungovernable misfit inspired art, animation or music<br />- design or implement some software that can make the podcast better<br />- use whatever talents you have to make a contribution to the show!<br /><br /><strong>TREASURE</strong>:<br /><br />- BOOST IT OR STREAM SATS on the Podcasting 2.0 apps @ <a href="https://podcastapps.com" target="_blank">https://podcastapps.com</a><br />- DONATE via Monero @ <a href="https://xmrchat.com/ugmf" target="_blank">https://xmrchat.com/ugmf</a><br />- BUY SOME STICKERS @ <a href="https://www.ungovernablemisfits.com/shop/" target="_blank">https://www.ungovernablemisfits.com/shop/</a></p><br /><p><strong>FOUNDATION<br /><br /></strong><a href="https://foundation.xyz/ungovernable" target="_blank"><strong>https://foundation.xyz/ungovernable</strong></a><br /><br />Foundation builds Bitcoin-centric tools that empower you to reclaim your digital sovereignty.<br /><br />As a sovereign computing company, Foundation is the antithesis of today’s tech conglomerates. Returning to cypherpunk principles, they build open source technology that “can’t be evil”.<br /><br />Thank you Foundation Devices for sponsoring the show!<br /><br /><strong>Use code: Ungovernable for $10 off of your purchase</strong></p><br /><p><strong>CAKE WALLET</strong><br /><br /><a href="https://cakewallet.com" target="_blank"><strong>https://cakewallet.com</strong></a><br /><br />Cake Wallet is an open-source, non-custodial wallet available on Android, iOS, macOS, and Linux.<br /><br /><strong>Features</strong>:<br />- Built-in Exchange: Swap easily between Bitcoin and Monero.<br />- User-Friendly: Simple interface for all users.<br /><br /><strong>Monero Users:</strong><br />- Batch Transactions: Send multiple payments at once.<br />- Faster Syncing: Optimized syncing via specified restore heights<br />- Proxy Support: Enhance privacy with proxy node options.<br /><br /><strong>Bitcoin Users:</strong><br />- Coin Control: Manage your transactions effectively.<br />- Silent Payments: Static bitcoin addresses<br />- Batch Transactions: Streamline your payment process.<br /><br /><strong>Thank you Cake Wallet for sponsoring the show!</strong></p><br /><p><strong>MYNYMBOX<br /><br /></strong><a href="https://mynymbox.io" target="_blank">https://mynymbox.io</a><br /><br />Your go-to for anonymous server hosting solutions, featuring: virtual private &amp; dedicated servers, domain registration and DNS parking. We don't require any of your personal information, and you can purchase using Bitcoin, Lightning, Monero and many other cryptos.<br /><br />Explore benefits such as No KYC, complete privacy &amp; security, and human support.</p><br /><p>(00:00) <a href="https://ungovernablemisfits.com" target="_blank" >INTRO</a></p><p>(00:57) <a href="https://foundation.xyz" target="_blank" >THANK YOU FOUNDATION</a></p><p>(01:38) <a href="https://cakewallet.com" target="_blank" >THANK YOU CAKE WALLET</a></p><p>(02:43) Drowning in Guiness</p><p>(10:00) <a href="https://billandkeonne.org" target="_blank" >Pardon Samourai Updates</a></p><p>(12:52) <a href="https://www.fox10phoenix.com/news/targeted-scottsdale-home-invasion-linked-alleged-66m-cryptocurrency-plot" target="_blank" >Scottsdale Wrench Attack</a></p><p>(16:06) <a href="https://www.ledauphine.com/faits-divers-justice/2026/02/06/cryptomonnaies-une-iseroise-et-sa-mere-enlevees-par-un-commando-avant-d-etre-liberees-30-heures-plus-tard-dans-la-drome" target="_blank" >Kidnapped in Isere</a></p><p>(21:22) <a href="https://stacker.news/items/1425397" target="_blank" >Alby Launches Sandbox</a></p><p>(25:44) <a href="https://Startwithbitcoin.com" target="_blank" >Startwithbitcoin.com</a></p><p>(27:02) <a href="https://x.com/citrea_xyz/status/2016149582942495044" target="_blank" >Citrea is Live</a></p><p>(29:16) <a href="https://www.offgrid.cash/en" target="_blank" >Offgrid DOT Cash</a></p><p>(36:44) <a href="https://umbrel.com/umbrel-pro" target="_blank" >Umbrel Aluminium</a></p><p>(45:54) BOOSTS</p><p>(49:35) <a href="https://x.com/MostroP2P/status/2019777381775397068" target="_blank" >Mostro 1.1 Beta App</a></p><p>(50:32) <a href="https://github.com/FROSTR-ORG/igloo-desktop/releases/tag/v1.0.3" target="_blank" >Igloo Desktop</a></p><p>(52:46) <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WgesdYSgPno" target="_blank" >BTC Sessions Aqua Tutorial</a></p><p>(53:46) <a href="https://x.com/damianplayer/status/2015105669620269373" target="_blank" >BTC Sessions Nunchuk Tutorial</a></p><p>(54:32) <a href="https://bitcoinmagazine.com/print/the-v2-transport-bitcoin-p2p-traffic-goes-dark" target="_blank" >Peter Wuille on V2 Transport</a></p><p>(55:53) <a href="https://mynymbox.io" target="_blank" >THANK YOU MYNYMBOX</a></p>