Can they suffer? Humanism beyond humans and the British animal rights tradition

Send us Fan Mail In 1789, the British philosopher Jeremy Bentham asked a deceptively simple question: not whether animals can reason or talk, but whether they can suffer. That question opened a long argument about how a secular, humanist ethics should reach beyond the human — an argument that Victorian reformers like Henry Salt and his Humanitarian League turned into a campaign for animal rights, vegetarianism, the abolition of vivisection and the reform of zoos and blood sports, and that runs in a long line through Bridget Brophy and the Oxford Group of the 1970s to the modern animal rights and vegan movements. This episode traces the humanist ideas at the heart of that tradition, and asks what those Victorian and Edwardian thinkers still have to teach us about how we treat the animals we share the world with. Guests: Dr Helen Cowie, Professor of Early Modern History at the University of York, whose books include Animals in World History and work on zoos, menageries, and the trade in animal commodities. york.ac.uk Dr Andrew Fenton, Professor of Philosophy at Dalhousie University, whose work on animal ethics includes the co-authored The Three Pillars of Ethical Research with Nonhuman Primates and ongoing research on the philosophy of Henry Salt. dal.ca For all references to people, places, and events in this episode and the full series, visit heritage.humanists.uk/podcast Join Humanists UK: humanists.uk/join Discover more Humanist Heritage: heritage.humanists.uk Send us your questions or feedback: [email protected] Unholy Histories is produced by Humanise Live a production agency creating values-led podcast content. Start podcasting today at humanise.live Music: Small Things by Simon Folwar Podcast transcripts are AI-generated and may contain errors or omissions. They are provided to make our content more accessible, but should not be considered a fully accurate record of the conversation.