In another "My Favorite People" episode, Trevor sits down with Esther Perel. This time around, Esther reflects on her early life experiences and how those experiences have shaped her life and career. They also discuss the importance of “friction” as an essential element of a life well lived, and why we should all maybe be hanging out at the laundromat. Hosted by Simplecast, an AdsWizz company. See pcm.adswizz.com for information about our collection and use of personal data for advertising.