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White Box Rodeo
Robert Valentine, Kayvan Nikjou
Lars Rasmussen, Co-Creator of Google Maps | No VC Called Us Back
OCT 23, 202667 MIN
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Description
Lars Rasmussen co-created Google Maps with his brother Jens. He talks with Robert Valentine and Kayvan Nikjou about the mapping startup no investor wanted, the question from Larry Page that changed the product and the three weeks in which the brothers rebuilt it for the browser.
The Rasmussens pitched a full-screen map you could drag around and no VC called back. Investors said people only need a map a few times a month. After a deal with a VC fell through, the brothers met Larry Page with maxed-out credit cards and no other options. Google hired them before it had time to buy their company, days before its IPO. Lars explains why Google Wave failed where Maps worked. He also says he should only build things he is bad at.
Today Lars is an angel investor in Athens. He was in Canva's first round and tells how its founders learned kite surfing to meet investors. A "Save Dave" sign later brought Canva its CTO. He also talks about Panathēnea, the startup festival he helps build in Athens.
New episodes every Monday and Friday. Recorded at HumanX, Amsterdam.
Chapters
0:00 Cold open
1:13 Meeting at HumanX
1:57 Panathēnea, the ancient festival of Athens
11:14 Why Athens and its startup scene
18:23 Where 2 Technologies and Jens's idea
23:38 No callbacks from any VC
24:48 "That's because your maps suck"
26:43 A spare bedroom in Sydney
27:39 Yahoo kills the deal
30:13 Start working for us on Monday
31:38 One of Google's best investments
32:49 Inside a VC's funnel
36:13 Meeting Larry Page
40:35 Three weeks to rebuild it in the browser
42:47 How big Google Maps became
48:42 Staying until Maps was number one
50:09 Google Wave
52:38 Only build what you are bad at
54:30 A first-round investor in Canva
57:36 Learn kite surfing to raise money
60:39 Save Dave
62:49 The 23-year-old CEO of Panathēnea
Corrections
12:02 During the 2015 capital controls the cash withdrawal limit in Greece was €60 per day.
45:29 Google's own mapping project was called Ground Truth.
48:48 Sebastian Thrun went on to lead the flying-car company Kitty Hawk.
White Box Rodeo is for information and entertainment only and is not investment advice. The hosts may hold interests in companies they discuss.
Watch the video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yXlJBzcNjHU
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Hosts: Robert Valentine and Kayvan Nikjou

