Jiven Jana and Kick Ass Katt

Jiven Jana and Kick Ass Katt are 2 co-workers of mine who do live against the grain in a typically bureaucratically built office space. How do we redeem a culture of "NO" and pushing the "other" away? Join me for part 1 of my conversation with Katt and Jana as we figure out a quagmire of tangled quandaries together.