<div>From the jump, the administration has been all about the memes, owning the libs, and pissing people off. But Abby says she wants Trump’s supporters to have a chance to share their points of view on her show—and be challenged in real time. Meanwhile, during the weirdest shutdown ever, Republicans are at risk on SNAP and Obamacare subsidies. And policing the Caribbean and the Pacific to commit summary executions is not America First. Plus, the roots of Bernie Sanders’s populist campaigns were planted by Jesse Jackson’s runs for the presidency in ‘84 and ‘88. But Trump too also echoes Jackson as a political figure—through their use of celebrity, personality, and similar outsider populist messaging.<br>
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<strong>Abby Phillip</strong> joins Tim Miller.<br>
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<a href="https://us.macmillan.com/books/9781250806314/adreamdeferred/">Abby's book, "A Dream Deferred: Jesse Jackson and the Fight for Black Political Power"<br>
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<a href="https://www.cnn.com/videos/title-2444792">CNN's NewsNight with Abby Phillip<br>
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<a href="https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/tim-bill-on-the-creepiest-trump-propaganda-yet/id1794450472?i=1000733970672">Tim and Bill on Trump creepiest propaganda yet<br>
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