Are you struggling to navigate the tension between your faith and the current political climate? Join Mike Erre and Tim Stafford as they sit down with theologian and author Dr. Lee Camp to discuss how Christians can faithfully bear witness in a world of political idolatry. This deep dive explores the history of the church, the myth of the Christian nation, and what it truly means to follow Jesus in a polarized society.In this episode, the team discusses the radical roots of the Anabaptist movement and how the early church viewed its relationship with the state. Dr. Camp breaks down the crucial distinctions between healthy patriotism and the messianic claims of Christian nationalism. You will hear a challenging conversation about why the church is called to a life of persuasion rather than compulsion, and how we can engage in the public square without being malformed by bitterness or partisan tribalism.From the ethics of voting to the historical development of just war theory, this interview provides a robust framework for anyone looking to deepen their theological understanding of politics. Whether you are feeling disillusioned by modern headlines or looking for a better way to love your neighbor, this conversation offers a refreshing perspective on the present and coming kingdom of God.Chapters:0:00 Intro4:15 The malformation of news and media8:20 Introducing guest Dr. Lee Camp11:15 Exploring the No Small Endeavor project14:30 Lee Camp's background and Anabaptist roots18:15 The radical reformation and church-state power23:10 Theological reasons for separating church and state27:35 Christians participating in government31:45 The ambiguity and ethics of voting36:20 Biblical instructions in a modern democracy39:50 Differentiating patriotism from nationalism45:10 Is America a Christian nation?50:25 The church's role in bearing witness53:40 Just war theory vs. Christian pacifism1:00:15 Resisting political idolatry with grace1:05:30 Where to find Lee Camp's work1:08:00 Outro and how to support VoxologyAs always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram.We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV.Our Merch Store! EtsyLearn more about the Voxology PodcastSubscribe on iTunes or SpotifySupport the Voxology Podcast on PatreonThe Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology RadioFollow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on FacebookFollow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerreMusic in this episode by Timothy John StaffordInstagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy