<description>&lt;p&gt;In this episode, Mike and Tim ask a provocative question: Is "Christ is King" becoming blasphemy? They begin by analyzing recent political rhetoric, specifically a speech by Pete Hegseth, to discuss how biblical language can be hijacked for coercive power rather than reflecting the character of Jesus. The hosts argue that proclaiming theological truths while living in opposition to the way of Jesus is a distortion of "faith and politics."&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;The conversation then shifts to a deep exploration of the Lord's Prayer and the petition, "Your Kingdom come." Mike and Tim unpack the concept of the "anti-kingdom," explaining that Jesus preached the Kingdom of God in enemy-occupied territory. They explore "theology" regarding the "powers and principalities," looking at the Divine Council in the Psalms, the "heavenly host" in Genesis, and how the biblical authors understood the spiritual forces behind structural evil and injustice. This isn't just about ancient myths; it is about understanding "the role of the church in society" when facing systemic corruption.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;By contrasting the "cruciformity" of the Gospel with the power dynamics of empire, the guys offer a framework for "navigating cultural challenges" with wisdom. They highlight that true "Christianity" recognizes the spiritual battle at play—not just in individuals, but in cultural patterns and ideologies. As the hosts discuss the "seen and unseen" realms, they emphasize the importance of prayer and "justice" in a world that is both beautiful and broken. We encourage and would love discussion as we pursue these complex topics, so please engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram.&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;Chapters&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;00:00 - Introduction and Welcome&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;02:17 - Living with Purpose Daily&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;05:46 - Pete Hegseth Biblical Analysis&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;09:55 - Spiritual Warfare and Authority&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;10:54 - Defining the Anti-Kingdom&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;18:07 - Mark 1:21-28 Bible Study&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;23:43 - Jewish Beliefs About Demons&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;26:04 - Jesus Appoints Twelve Disciples&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;26:50 - Understanding the Unforgivable Sin&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;30:57 - Spiritual vs Physical Realms&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;31:59 - Biblical Identity of Satan&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;36:30 - The Heavenly Host Explained&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;46:18 - Psalm 82 Divine Council&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;49:29 - Principalities and Spiritual Powers&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;51:01 - Spiritual Powers Unjust Rulers&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;52:49 - Spiritual Powers Popular Culture&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;54:09 - Idols and Sacrificed Meat&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;56:10 - Judgment of Spiritual Powers&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;57:28 - Satan and Cosmic Powers&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;1:01:55 - Overcoming the Anti-Kingdom&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;1:06:46 - Spiritual Reflection Poem&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;1:09:14 - Support and Partnership&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;1:09:19 - Connect and Follow Us&lt;/p&gt; &lt;div class= "flex flex-wrap gap-x-8 gap-y-5 print:col-span-full col-span-full md:col-start-2 md:col-span-7"&gt; &lt;div class="max-w-full flex-1 md:mb-6"&gt; &lt;header class="mb-1.5 md:mb-8"&gt; &lt;header class="grid gap-2"&gt; &lt;div class="flex items-center gap-2"&gt; &lt;p&gt;What It Looks Like To Us and the Words We UseBy &lt;a class= "link-underline-off link-red" href= "https://www.poetryfoundation.org/poets/ada-limon"&gt;Ada Limón&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/header&gt; &lt;/header&gt; &lt;article class="mb-6 flex flex-col gap-12 md:mb-0"&gt; &lt;div class="relative" data-v-1a293654=""&gt; &lt;div class="annotations-active" data-v-1a293654=""&gt; &lt;div class="rich-text copy-large" data-v-1a293654="" data-v-5bf99d9e=""&gt; &lt;div class="poem-body overflow-x-clip" data-v-5bf99d9e=""&gt; &lt;div&gt;All these great barns out here in the outskirts, &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div&gt;black creosote boards knee-deep in the bluegrass.&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div&gt;They look so beautifully abandoned, even in use.&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div&gt;You say they look like arks after the sea's&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div&gt;dried up, I say they look like pirate ships,&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div&gt;and I think of that walk in the valley where&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div&gt;J said, You don't believe in God? And I said,&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div&gt;No. I believe in this connection we all have&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div&gt;to nature, to each other, to the universe.&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div&gt;And she said, Yeah, God. And how we stood there,&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div&gt;low beasts among the white oaks, Spanish moss,&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div&gt;and spider webs, obsidian shards stuck in our pockets,&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div&gt;woodpecker flurry, and I refused to call it so.&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div&gt;So instead, we looked up at the unruly sky,&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div&gt;its clouds in simple animal shapes we could name&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div&gt;though we knew they were really just clouds—&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div&gt;disorderly, and marvelous, and ours.&lt;/div&gt; &lt;div&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class="grid gap-4"&gt; &lt;div class= "border-t border-black pt-2 text-2xs leading-snug text-gray-400 sm:text-sm"&gt; Copyright Credit: Poem copyright ©2012 by Ada Limón, whose most recent book of poems is &lt;em&gt;Sharks in the Rivers,&lt;/em&gt; Milkweed Editions, 2010. Poem reprinted from &lt;em&gt;Poecology,&lt;/em&gt; Issue 1, 2011, by permission of Ada Limón and the publisher.&lt;/div&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/article&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;div class="print:hidden col-span-full md:col-span-3" data-dl_element_location="sidebar"&gt; &lt;aside class="grid gap-5 sm:gap-8"&gt; &lt;div class="hidden md:flex md:justify-end"&gt; &lt;div class="print:hidden"&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;/aside&gt; &lt;/div&gt; &lt;p class="p1"&gt;As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. 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Voxology

Mike Erre and Tim Stafford

The Opposite But Not Equal Kingdom

FEB 23, 202670 MIN
Voxology

The Opposite But Not Equal Kingdom

FEB 23, 202670 MIN

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In this episode, Mike and Tim ask a provocative question: Is "Christ is King" becoming blasphemy? They begin by analyzing recent political rhetoric, specifically a speech by Pete Hegseth, to discuss how biblical language can be hijacked for coercive power rather than reflecting the character of Jesus. The hosts argue that proclaiming theological truths while living in opposition to the way of Jesus is a distortion of "faith and politics." The conversation then shifts to a deep exploration of the Lord's Prayer and the petition, "Your Kingdom come." Mike and Tim unpack the concept of the "anti-kingdom," explaining that Jesus preached the Kingdom of God in enemy-occupied territory. They explore "theology" regarding the "powers and principalities," looking at the Divine Council in the Psalms, the "heavenly host" in Genesis, and how the biblical authors understood the spiritual forces behind structural evil and injustice. This isn't just about ancient myths; it is about understanding "the role of the church in society" when facing systemic corruption. By contrasting the "cruciformity" of the Gospel with the power dynamics of empire, the guys offer a framework for "navigating cultural challenges" with wisdom. They highlight that true "Christianity" recognizes the spiritual battle at play—not just in individuals, but in cultural patterns and ideologies. As the hosts discuss the "seen and unseen" realms, they emphasize the importance of prayer and "justice" in a world that is both beautiful and broken. We encourage and would love discussion as we pursue these complex topics, so please engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. Chapters 00:00 - Introduction and Welcome 02:17 - Living with Purpose Daily 05:46 - Pete Hegseth Biblical Analysis 09:55 - Spiritual Warfare and Authority 10:54 - Defining the Anti-Kingdom 18:07 - Mark 1:21-28 Bible Study 23:43 - Jewish Beliefs About Demons 26:04 - Jesus Appoints Twelve Disciples 26:50 - Understanding the Unforgivable Sin 30:57 - Spiritual vs Physical Realms 31:59 - Biblical Identity of Satan 36:30 - The Heavenly Host Explained 46:18 - Psalm 82 Divine Council 49:29 - Principalities and Spiritual Powers 51:01 - Spiritual Powers Unjust Rulers 52:49 - Spiritual Powers Popular Culture 54:09 - Idols and Sacrificed Meat 56:10 - Judgment of Spiritual Powers 57:28 - Satan and Cosmic Powers 1:01:55 - Overcoming the Anti-Kingdom 1:06:46 - Spiritual Reflection Poem 1:09:14 - Support and Partnership 1:09:19 - Connect and Follow Us What It Looks Like To Us and the Words We UseBy Ada Limón All these great barns out here in the outskirts, black creosote boards knee-deep in the bluegrass. They look so beautifully abandoned, even in use. You say they look like arks after the sea's dried up, I say they look like pirate ships, and I think of that walk in the valley where J said, You don't believe in God? And I said, No. I believe in this connection we all have to nature, to each other, to the universe. And she said, Yeah, God. And how we stood there, low beasts among the white oaks, Spanish moss, and spider webs, obsidian shards stuck in our pockets, woodpecker flurry, and I refused to call it so. So instead, we looked up at the unruly sky, its clouds in simple animal shapes we could name though we knew they were really just clouds— disorderly, and marvelous, and ours. Copyright Credit: Poem copyright ©2012 by Ada Limón, whose most recent book of poems is Sharks in the Rivers, Milkweed Editions, 2010. Poem reprinted from Poecology, Issue 1, 2011, by permission of Ada Limón and the publisher. As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram. We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV. Our Merch Store! Etsy Learn more about the Voxology Podcast Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy