Kyle Sandilands and Karl Stefanovic - It’s one of the sharpest podcast interviews you’ll hear this year according to Craig, but Irene has a very different view. We unpack the interview and discuss Karl’s first step into podcasting and independent media. Then we tackle Christian O’Connell’s big question: What does radio do that nothing else can? Is “live and local” actually a differentiator — or just industry comfort food? And finally: in a fractured, algorithm-driven media world, can any show truly be “famous for” one thing? Or is the smarter play building a suite of benchmarks that compound around a clear position? This one’s for programmers, talent and anyone still chasing the idea of a magic segment. This week's guest is Jay Walkerden from Podshape, one of Australia's largest independent podcast and content production companies. Email us at [email protected] Game Changers Radio is edited by Abe’s Audio.See omnystudio.com/listener for privacy information.