Why Inclusive Design is Good for People and Great for Business / Jess Kessin / Ep. 224
MAR 27, 202561 MIN
Why Inclusive Design is Good for People and Great for Business / Jess Kessin / Ep. 224
MAR 27, 202561 MIN
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<p>It's just not designed for me...</p><p>That thought hits me every time I'm in the kitchen, wrestling, trying to prepare a healthy meal for the family.</p><p>Reading recipes six times over, scrambling for ingredients, juggling the chaos of parallel cooking... yeah, it's a mess.</p><p>And then, there's my wife, a natural chef, gliding through it all with effortless grace. Watching her is like watching poetry in motion.</p><p>This stark contrast reinforces that the kitchen and everything in it feels utterly alien to me.</p><p>Now, as a white, middle-aged, English-speaking, physically able male, I'll be the first to admit this feeling of alienation is rare for me when dealing with most products and services. And yes, cooking is a trivial example.</p><p>But countless people who face do face this daily in situations far more critical.</p><p>Imagine navigating healthcare, financial services, or public services, feeling like they weren't designed for you. Now that's a serious problem.</p><p>Unfortunately, this is the reality for more services than we'd maybe like to admit.</p><p>Sure, from a service design (and business perspective), it's easy to justify focusing on the majority.</p><p>Time and resources are limited, so we design for the "center of the bell curve," the biggest group or the most profitable users. If that means excluding some, well, that's just business, right?</p><p>But our guest, Jess Kessin, argues that good design does not exclude.</p><p>She proposes an alternative approach: inclusive design that's both effective and cost-efficient. In fact, she insists it pays for itself.</p><p>So, how do we bring more inclusive practices into our design process? How do we make the business case? And what are some practical starting points?</p><p>We dive into all of that and much more in this episode.</p><p>As I've often said on the Show, making our services inclusive is our responsibility as a design community.</p><p>Even (especially) when no one is asking, it should be our own professional standard for good design.</p><p>Enjoy the conversation, and as always, keep making a positive impact.</p><p>~ Marc</p><p>--- [ 1. GUIDE ] --- </p><p>00:00Welcome to Episode 224</p><p>03:30 Meet Jess</p><p>05:15 Discussion of D-School</p><p>06:30 Barriers to Implementing Inclusive Design</p><p>08:30 The Business Case</p><p>11:00 Addressing Stakeholder Profit Concerns</p><p>13:30 Prototyping Inclusive Design</p><p>15:00 Identifying Key Focus Areas </p><p>17:00 Living up to design standard</p><p>22:00 Engaging "Edge Users"</p><p>25:00 Designing for Extreme Users</p><p>29:00 Expanding Design to "All" of Humanity</p><p>32:00 Community-Driven Design</p><p>33:00 Untapped Market Potential</p><p>35:30 Misconceptions Among Design Students</p><p>41:00 Blind Spots in Design Education</p><p>44:30 Learning from Users with Disabilities</p><p>45:00 Discovering Insights from Outliers</p><p>46:00 Importance of Good Design</p><p>49:00 Practical tips for designer</p><p>51:30 The Future of Inclusive Design</p><p>55:00 AI as a Tool for Inclusive Design</p><p>58:00 Taking Leadership in Inclusive Design</p><p>1:00:00 Food for Thought </p><p> --- [ 2. LINKS ] --- </p><ul><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jessicazkessin/" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">https://www.linkedin.com/in/jessicazkessin/</a></li></ul><p> --- [ 3. CIRCLE ] --- </p><p>Join our private community for in-house service design professionals. </p><p><a href="https://www.servicedesignshow.com/circle/?utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=episode_description&utm_id=224&utm_content=v4" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">https://servicedesignshow.com/circle</a></p><p><br></p><p><br></p>
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Sign In![<p>It's just not designed for me...</p><p>That thought hits me every time I'm in the kitchen, wrestling, trying to prepare a healthy meal for the family.</p><p>Reading recipes six times over, scrambling for ingredients, juggling the chaos of parallel cooking... yeah, it's a mess.</p><p>And then, there's my wife, a natural chef, gliding through it all with effortless grace. Watching her is like watching poetry in motion.</p><p>This stark contrast reinforces that the kitchen and everything in it feels utterly alien to me.</p><p>Now, as a white, middle-aged, English-speaking, physically able male, I'll be the first to admit this feeling of alienation is rare for me when dealing with most products and services. And yes, cooking is a trivial example.</p><p>But countless people who face do face this daily in situations far more critical.</p><p>Imagine navigating healthcare, financial services, or public services, feeling like they weren't designed for you. Now that's a serious problem.</p><p>Unfortunately, this is the reality for more services than we'd maybe like to admit.</p><p>Sure, from a service design (and business perspective), it's easy to justify focusing on the majority.</p><p>Time and resources are limited, so we design for the "center of the bell curve," the biggest group or the most profitable users. If that means excluding some, well, that's just business, right?</p><p>But our guest, Jess Kessin, argues that good design does not exclude.</p><p>She proposes an alternative approach: inclusive design that's both effective and cost-efficient. In fact, she insists it pays for itself.</p><p>So, how do we bring more inclusive practices into our design process? How do we make the business case? And what are some practical starting points?</p><p>We dive into all of that and much more in this episode.</p><p>As I've often said on the Show, making our services inclusive is our responsibility as a design community.</p><p>Even (especially) when no one is asking, it should be our own professional standard for good design.</p><p>Enjoy the conversation, and as always, keep making a positive impact.</p><p>~ Marc</p><p>--- [ 1. GUIDE ] --- </p><p>00:00Welcome to Episode 224</p><p>03:30 Meet Jess</p><p>05:15 Discussion of D-School</p><p>06:30 Barriers to Implementing Inclusive Design</p><p>08:30 The Business Case</p><p>11:00 Addressing Stakeholder Profit Concerns</p><p>13:30 Prototyping Inclusive Design</p><p>15:00 Identifying Key Focus Areas </p><p>17:00 Living up to design standard</p><p>22:00 Engaging "Edge Users"</p><p>25:00 Designing for Extreme Users</p><p>29:00 Expanding Design to "All" of Humanity</p><p>32:00 Community-Driven Design</p><p>33:00 Untapped Market Potential</p><p>35:30 Misconceptions Among Design Students</p><p>41:00 Blind Spots in Design Education</p><p>44:30 Learning from Users with Disabilities</p><p>45:00 Discovering Insights from Outliers</p><p>46:00 Importance of Good Design</p><p>49:00 Practical tips for designer</p><p>51:30 The Future of Inclusive Design</p><p>55:00 AI as a Tool for Inclusive Design</p><p>58:00 Taking Leadership in Inclusive Design</p><p>1:00:00 Food for Thought </p><p> --- [ 2. LINKS ] --- </p><ul><li><a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/jessicazkessin/" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">https://www.linkedin.com/in/jessicazkessin/</a></li></ul><p> --- [ 3. CIRCLE ] --- </p><p>Join our private community for in-house service design professionals. </p><p><a href="https://www.servicedesignshow.com/circle/?utm_source=podcast&utm_medium=podcast&utm_campaign=episode_description&utm_id=224&utm_content=v4" target="_blank" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer">https://servicedesignshow.com/circle</a></p><p><br></p><p><br></p>](https://us-central1-podcastguru-217d6.cloudfunctions.net/gcf_get_image?image_url=https://is1-ssl.mzstatic.com/image/thumb/Podcasts126/v4/44/82/12/4482120c-859a-b927-ee5e-712692c98f67/mza_2086360667211686713.jpg/600x600bb.jpg&width=300&height=300&api_key=xqFmUFX5BHLBTA)
