Service Design Show

We are moving way past the point of just typing prompts into chat interfaces. We are entering the "agentic era," where a single person can deploy high-level AI agents who manage their own teams of digital workers underneath them.This shift is triggering a massive compression of skills, collapsing separate specialized roles into a single generalist function. If most service interactions shift to agent-to-agent communication, the human experience risks disappearing completely.In this episode, John Ayers joins Marc to explore how to help the "80% in the middle". The people who are curious but completely exhausted by the daily AI hype cycle. You'll learn how to take your existing mapping toolkit and adapt it to build "AI service blueprints," translating human personas directly into digital agents so we don't lose empathy.As you listen, think about John’s closing challenge: When the dust settles two years from now, what do you actually want your career to look like?Be well,~ Marc--- [ 1. GUIDE ] --- 00:00 Welcome to Episode 25401:00 Introducing John Ayers02:15 Reality vs AI Hype03:45 Lessons From Past Shifts07:15 Why AI is Different09:00 The Rapid Pace of AI11:30 The Shift to AI Agents13:15 Agent-to-Agent Decisions15:00 Building a Digital Workforce16:15 Domain Knowledge vs General AI18:00 Helping the Overwhelmed Majority26:00 Avoiding Fake AI29:15 The Governance Gap31:00 The New AI Giants34:00 Service Blueprinting for AI35:00 Anatomy of an AI Agent39:30 The Democratization Trap41:30 Human Skills vs Job Losses45:00 Stop Chasing Tech Tools46:30 Focus on Humans, Not Jargon51:45 Human Purpose in the AI Era54:30 Avoiding AI Burnout54:45 John’s Disruptor Confessions56:15 Asking the Hard Questions58:30 Wrap-Up and Community Call --- [ 2. LINKS ] --- LinkedIn - https://www.linkedin.com/in/johnlayers/ --- [ 3. CIRCLE ] --- Join our private community for in-house service design professionals. ⁠https://servicedesignshow.com/circle--- [4. FIND THE SHOW ON] ---Youtube ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/254-youtubeSpotify ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/254-spotifyApple ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/254-appleSnipd ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/254-snipd

Does your "Master Journey Map" just sit in a digital drawer? You aren’t alone. In this episode, we dive into "Journey Theater"— the trap of performing progress without moving the needle on business outcomes.We’re moving beyond "mapping for mapping’s sake." Learn how to shift from being a service provider to a strategic partner by building a living system that survives the next re-org.Watch this episode to learn:Why your budget holder is your real customerThe warning signs of Journey TheaterHow to shift from project cycles to an operational modelUsing the Journey Maturity Scorecard to track growthJust like the rest of the Playbook, this episode is best consumed as a video because we walk through specific examples, like the Journey Maturity Scorecard, on screen. If you’re listening on the go, you can always grab the slide deck from the show notes to follow along.Enjoy and keep making a positive impact!~ Marc--- [1. LINKS 🔗 ] --- Playbook Slides - https://go.servicedesignshow.com/xo964Sign up for TheyDo - https://go.servicedesignshow.com/scjwb Journey Health Scorecard - https://go.servicedesignshow.com/journey-management-playbook-10-journey-health-scorecard-podcastThe Journey Management Playbook - https://www.theydo.com/resources/journey-management-playbook?utm_source=article&utm_medium=blog&utm_campaign=202605-Global-Marc--- [ 2. GUIDE 📺 ] ---00:00 Welcome to Journey Management Playbook S2E203:45 Internal Customer 05:30 Decision Maker Needs 07:15 Budget Agenda 10:30 Impact Over Selling 13:15 Organizational Friction 16:15 The Journey Scope 19:15 Journey Theater 21:00 Reporting Progress Live 26:45 Breaking Project Cycles 30:45 Quantifying Wins 40:15 Decision Context 41:30 Continuous Insights 42:45 Common Language 44:00 Cross Vertical Impact 45:30 Eight Success Steps 46:45 AI Data Leverage 48:00 Delivery Authority 49:15 Proactive Influence 50:30 Impact Focus 51:45 Six Month Strategy 53:00 Revenue vs Cost 54:15 Agenda Alignment 56:45 Management Maturity 58:00 Scaling Momentum 1:00:45 Journey Health Score 1:04:30 Summary and Next Steps --- [ 3. FIND THE SHOW ON ] --- Youtube ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/journey-management-playbook-10-youtubeSpotify ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/journey-management-playbook-10-spotifyApple ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/journey-management-playbook-10-appleSnipd ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/journey-management-playbook-10-snipd

Do you show up as an "A-student" constantly seeking the next gold star, only to feel personally attacked when your work is misunderstood? 🌟 In this episode, we tackle the "identity trap" in design and how to stay passionate without letting corporate exploitation drain your soulIn this episode, you'll learn:Why wrapping your personal value in professional output leads to burnout and frustration. How the constant need for "exceeds expectations" reviews can actually undermine your professional agency. Strategies to care deeply about your impact without letting it define your humanity. How to feel in control even when your leadership doesn't yet grasp the full value of what you bring to the tableOur guest: Sara Wachter-BoettcherSara is a vocal leader in the design community and the founder of Active Voice, where she has coached dozens of professionals through these exact challenges. She joins Marc to explore how to lean into conversations about value without feeling like you’re constantly pleading for your seat at the table.As you'll hear, Sara brings some "tough love" that helps you come out the other side more confident. It’s about learning to keep your side of the street clean, even when the organization around you feels messy. Enjoy and keep making a positive impact!Be well,~ Marc--- [ 1. GUIDE ] --- 00:00 Welcome to Episode 25303:30 The collective headspace of design today05:30 The impact of AI-related layoffs on design morale.08:15 Era of cheap money10:00 20-teens tech boom and its consequences15:00 The ROI trap and identity18:15 How shifting performance standards destabilize personal identity22:00 Breaking the spell of work identity24:45 Discomfort of realizing a job doesn't align with personal values33:00 Navigating organizational change38:45 Power mapping exercises44:45 Empathy for colleagues51:45 Concept of "humanizing" organizations to reduce isolation55:15 Radical act of clocking out57:00 Leadership without the ego59:15 Strategic patience in a crisis1:01:15 The value of the human behind the designer01:14:15 Question to ponder --- [ 2. LINKS ] --- https://www.linkedin.com/in/saraboettcher --- [ 3. CIRCLE ] --- Join our private community for in-house service design professionals. ⁠https://servicedesignshow.com/circle[4. FIND THE SHOW ON]Youtube ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/253-youtubeSpotify ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/253-spotifyApple ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/253-appleSnipd ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/253-snipd

You look around the room and realize you’re the only one who cares about the customer. 😫 It’s exhausting to be the lone voice begging for user research while everyone else just wants to ship the next feature.In this episode, Elle Beaumont-Bilsby and Nick Gaff join the show to discuss the heavy lifting required to be an in-house service design practitioner. We move beyond "thick skin" and look at how to build a sustainable career in environments that don't fully understand design. You’ll learn:Why surviving as a lone wolf is impossible and how to locate "quiet allies" hidden in other departments.A practical framework for building resilience at an organizational, service, and personal level.How Elle and Nick practice high-impact design without having "Service Designer" on their business cards.Practical tips for staying sane and avoiding burnout when you are the only advocate for the user.How to find a support crew outside your organization to help you carry the weight.I'm curious, if you had to make a guess, how many people do you have around you inside your org that get it? 1, 5, 20... let me know.Enjoy the episode and keep making a positive impact.~ Marc--- [ 1. GUIDE ] --- 00:00 Welcome to the March Round Up01:45 Defining Resilience03:30 Service Design in Australia04:45 Elle’s Design Journey07:00 Nick’s Career Path09:00 Effects of Digitization11:00 Higher Ed Challenges12:30 Impact Over Tools14:00 The Resilient Self Season14:45 3 Altitudes Framework16:00 Organizational Resilience17:00 Resilient Service Design18:00 Personal Development19:15 Recharging and Self-Care20:00 Resilience as a Quality21:00 Individual Resilience Focus 24:15 Peer Support Systems 28:00 Navigating Corporate Culture 31:30 Vulnerability in Leadership 35:45 Building Internal Allies 39:00 Friday Afternoon Reflections 42:15 Success Beyond Metrics 45:30 Managing High-Stress Projects 49:00 Sustainable Innovation 52:15 Resilience as Design Criteria 56:45 Switching Off and Recharging --- [ 2. LINKS ] --- https://www.linkedin.com/in/ellebeaumontbilsby/https://www.linkedin.com/in/ngaff/ --- [ 3. CIRCLE ] --- Join our private community for in-house service design professionals. ⁠https://servicedesignshow.com/circle--- [ 4. FIND THE SHOW ON ] ---Youtube ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/inside-service-design-12-youtubeSpotify ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/inside-service-design-12-spotifyApple ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/inside-service-design-12-appleSnipd ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/inside-service-design-12-snipd

Imagine making the cover of Time magazine...Okay, maybe not. Nobody gets into service design for the fame. Actually, as we’re always saying on the show, our best work is usually the stuff nobody notices.The spotlight stays on the CEOs. You rarely see the people in the trenches, the ones making sure the "faceless" public services we rely on actually work. Think about it for a moment, you can thank a mailman because he’s a human being standing on your porch in the rain. But when water is coming out of your faucet, there’s nobody to thank. It’s just "the system".That invisibility is exactly why people sometimes get hostile toward the government or big institutions. It's always "us versus them" because there’s no "them" to relate to.So our guest for this episode, Brian Whittaker, decided to change by starting a project called Humans of Public Service (HoPS).In this episode, we talk about the early days of the project and the weirdly difficult task of getting modest, quiet service design professionals to actually talk about themselves (on camera). He also shares hard won lessons on how he finally got the project to take off.It’s an inspiring conversation. It shows how much the vibe changes when you put a human face on a anonymous system. So if you’re trying to build empathy inside a big, messy organization, Brian’s blueprint really might just be what you need.While you’re listening, try to think of one "boring" story in your own org that deserves a spotlight. Enjoy the conversation and keep making a positive impact!Be well,~ Marc--- [ 1. GUIDE ] --- 00:00 Welcome to Episode 25203:45 Family Roots in Service05:00 Current US Service Challenges07:30 Private to Public Transition10:00 Modernizing Federal Tech11:00 Passion of Public Servants13:30 The Shift in 202014:15 Humans of Public Service15:45 Growing on LinkedIn17:00 Amplifying Unheard Voices18:15 Shifting the Narrative21:30 Bridging the Empathy Gap25:45 The Power of Recognition32:45 Institutional Design38:30- Scaling Human Connection44:55 The Future of Service51:15 Advice for Change-Makers53:30 Final Reflections --- [ 2. LINKS ] --- https://www.linkedin.com/in/bwhtt/ --- [ 3. CIRCLE ] --- Join our private community for in-house service design professionals. ⁠https://servicedesignshow.com/circle[4. FIND THE SHOW ON]Youtube ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/252-youtubeSpotify ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/252-spotifyApple ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/252-appleSnipd ~ https://go.servicedesignshow.com/252-snipd