<description>&lt;p&gt;Are many vegans self-righteous, overbearing and insufferable in their efforts to recruit us? Would you believe “overpopulation” is still a taboo word? Or that human population numbers are still an “off-limits” topic at some conferences? This episode continues the conversation we began in episode 79 with five smart people:&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;br /&gt; Nandita Bajaj, executive director of Population Balance&lt;br /&gt; Sarah Bexell, director of humane education at the Institute for Human Animal Connection at University of Denver&lt;br /&gt; Paul Sutton, professor of geography &amp; the environment at DU&lt;br /&gt; Stephanie Gardner, co-host of the GrowthBusters podcast&lt;br /&gt; Dave Gardner, co-host of the &lt;em&gt;GrowthBusters&lt;/em&gt; podcast&lt;br /&gt;  &lt;br /&gt;  &lt;br /&gt; &lt;strong&gt;MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;Population Balance&lt;br /&gt; &lt;a href="https://populationbalance.org" target="_blank" rel= "noopener"&gt;https://populationbalance.org&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;Population Denialism is Reminiscent of Climate Denialism&lt;/em&gt; - by Kirsten Stade&lt;em&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;a href= "https://www.ipsnews.net/2023/05/population-denialism-reminiscent-climate-denialism/" target="_blank" rel= "noopener"&gt;https://www.ipsnews.net/2023/05/population-denialism-reminiscent-climate-denialism/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/em&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p&gt;&lt;em&gt;Pro-Birth Policies Are Killing Us&lt;/em&gt; – by Nandita Bajaj and Kirsten Stade&lt;br /&gt; &lt;a href= "https://www.newsweek.com/too-much-good-thing-pronatalism-killing-earth-opinion-1784197" target="_blank" rel= "noopener"&gt;https://www.newsweek.com/too-much-good-thing-pronatalism-killing-earth-opinion-1784197&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;   &lt;br /&gt; &lt;em&gt;Pronatalism &amp; Overpopulation: The Personal, Cultural, and Global Implications of Having a Child&lt;/em&gt; (Course at Antioch University taught by Nandita Bajaj)&lt;br /&gt; &lt;a href= "https://www.populationbalance.org/pronatalism-and-overpopulation-course" target="_blank" rel= "noopener"&gt;https://www.populationbalance.org/pronatalism-and-overpopulation-course&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;   &lt;br /&gt; &lt;em&gt;Backpedalling on Overpopulation&lt;/em&gt; – by Rory Cockshaw&lt;br /&gt; &lt;a href= "https://www.rorycockshaw.com/blog/backpedalling-on-overpopulation" target="_blank" rel= "noopener"&gt;https://www.rorycockshaw.com/blog/backpedalling-on-overpopulation&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;   &lt;br /&gt; &lt;em&gt;Trains, Plants and Condoms: How to Save the Planet in 3 Simple Steps&lt;/em&gt; – by Rory Cockshaw&lt;br /&gt; &lt;a href= "https://www.rorycockshaw.com/blog/trains-plants-and-condoms" target="_blank" rel= "noopener"&gt;https://www.rorycockshaw.com/blog/trains-plants-and-condoms&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;   &lt;br /&gt; &lt;em&gt;Winners Take All: The Elite Charade of Changing the World&lt;/em&gt; – by Anand Giridharadas&lt;br /&gt; &lt;a href="https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/37506348" target= "_blank" rel= "noopener"&gt;https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/37506348&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;   &lt;br /&gt; &lt;em&gt;The Big Myth: How American Business Taught Us to Loathe Government and Love the Free Market&lt;/em&gt; – by Dr. Naomi Oreskes and Erik Conway&lt;br /&gt; &lt;a href="https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/57693264" target= "_blank" rel= "noopener"&gt;https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/57693264&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;   &lt;br /&gt; &lt;em&gt;How Free-Market Fundamentalism Fuels Overpopulation Denialism &amp; Undermines Democracy&lt;/em&gt; – Episode of &lt;em&gt;The Overpopulation Podcast&lt;/em&gt; with Naomi Oreskes&lt;br /&gt; &lt;a href="https://www.populationbalance.org/podcasts/naomi-oreskes" target="_blank" rel= "noopener"&gt;https://www.populationbalance.org/podcasts/naomi-oreskes&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;   &lt;br /&gt; &lt;em&gt;President Condemns ‘Obsession’ With Economic Growth&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt; Irish President Michael D Higgins speaks out against growth&lt;br /&gt; &lt;a href= "https://www.irishtimes.com/politics/2023/04/28/president-condemns-obsession-with-economic-growth/" target="_blank" rel= "noopener"&gt;https://www.irishtimes.com/politics/2023/04/28/president-condemns-obsession-with-economic-growth/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;br /&gt;   &lt;br /&gt; &lt;em&gt;Welcome To MAGA World: Trump Wants 'Freedom Cities' Where Cars Can Fly, Parents Get 'BONUSES' for Having Babies and Huge Monuments are Built to 'True American Heroes' in 'Quantum Leap' Vision for the Future&lt;/em&gt;&lt;br /&gt; &lt;a href= "https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11818381/Trumps-2024-pitch-New-cities-flying-cars-babies.html"&gt; https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11818381/Trumps-2024-pitch-New-cities-flying-cars-babies.html&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p class="p1"&gt;&lt;strong&gt;&lt;br /&gt; Give Us Feedback:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;ul&gt; &lt;li class="p1"&gt;Record a voice message for us to play on the podcast: 719-402-1400&lt;/li&gt; &lt;li class="p1"&gt;Send an email to podcast at growthbusters.org&lt;/li&gt; &lt;/ul&gt; &lt;p class="p1"&gt;&lt;em&gt;The GrowthBusters&lt;/em&gt; theme song was written and produced by Jake Fader and sung by Carlos Jones. &lt;a href="%22" target="_blank" rel="noopener"&gt;&lt;span class= "s1"&gt;https://www.fadermusicandsound.com/&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/a&gt; &lt;span class= "s1"&gt;&lt;a href= "https://carlosjones.com/"&gt;https://carlosjones.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/p&gt; &lt;p class="p1"&gt;&lt;span style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;&lt;em&gt;On the GrowthBusters podcast, we come to terms with the limits to growth, explore the joy of sustainable living, and provide a recovery program from our society’s growth addiction (economic/consumption and population). 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GrowthBusters

Dave Gardner and Stephanie Gardner on sustainability

81 Overpopulation Think Tank – Part 2

JUN 7, 202370 MIN
GrowthBusters

81 Overpopulation Think Tank – Part 2

JUN 7, 202370 MIN

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Are many vegans self-righteous, overbearing and insufferable in their efforts to recruit us? Would you believe “overpopulation” is still a taboo word? Or that human population numbers are still an “off-limits” topic at some conferences? This episode continues the conversation we began in episode 79 with five smart people:   Nandita Bajaj, executive director of Population Balance Sarah Bexell, director of humane education at the Institute for Human Animal Connection at University of Denver Paul Sutton, professor of geography & the environment at DU Stephanie Gardner, co-host of the GrowthBusters podcast Dave Gardner, co-host of the GrowthBusters podcast     MENTIONED IN THIS EPISODE:

Population Balance https://populationbalance.org

Population Denialism is Reminiscent of Climate Denialism - by Kirsten Stade https://www.ipsnews.net/2023/05/population-denialism-reminiscent-climate-denialism/

Pro-Birth Policies Are Killing Us – by Nandita Bajaj and Kirsten Stade https://www.newsweek.com/too-much-good-thing-pronatalism-killing-earth-opinion-1784197   Pronatalism & Overpopulation: The Personal, Cultural, and Global Implications of Having a Child (Course at Antioch University taught by Nandita Bajaj) https://www.populationbalance.org/pronatalism-and-overpopulation-course   Backpedalling on Overpopulation – by Rory Cockshaw https://www.rorycockshaw.com/blog/backpedalling-on-overpopulation   Trains, Plants and Condoms: How to Save the Planet in 3 Simple Steps – by Rory Cockshaw https://www.rorycockshaw.com/blog/trains-plants-and-condoms   Winners Take All: The Elite Charade of Changing the World – by Anand Giridharadas https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/37506348   The Big Myth: How American Business Taught Us to Loathe Government and Love the Free Market – by Dr. Naomi Oreskes and Erik Conway https://www.goodreads.com/en/book/show/57693264   How Free-Market Fundamentalism Fuels Overpopulation Denialism & Undermines Democracy – Episode of The Overpopulation Podcast with Naomi Oreskes https://www.populationbalance.org/podcasts/naomi-oreskes   President Condemns ‘Obsession’ With Economic Growth Irish President Michael D Higgins speaks out against growth https://www.irishtimes.com/politics/2023/04/28/president-condemns-obsession-with-economic-growth/   Welcome To MAGA World: Trump Wants 'Freedom Cities' Where Cars Can Fly, Parents Get 'BONUSES' for Having Babies and Huge Monuments are Built to 'True American Heroes' in 'Quantum Leap' Vision for the Future https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11818381/Trumps-2024-pitch-New-cities-flying-cars-babies.html

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