<description>&lt;p id=""&gt;Imagine enjoying the freedom to focus on visionary leadership while your business runs like a well-oiled machine. This Monday Morning Episode dives deep into the art of systemization in business operations, partnering with systems expert David Jenyns to reveal transformative strategies that liberate business owners and team members from monotonous daily tasks. Discover insights behind legendary organizations like McDonald's and Netflix, as David sheds light on the benefits of implementing documented processes. This episode not only highlights how these processes lead to career growth, job security, and streamlined workflows but also tackles the common hurdle of team resistance, providing actionable advice on engaging early adopters and ensuring positive introductions to new systems.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p id=""&gt;David emphasizes the importance of clear communication and tailored processes that strike the ideal balance between systemization and empowerment. He discusses how business owners can remove non-compliance excuses, set clear expectations, and build a team of systems-driven individuals, paving the way for sustainable success. Tune in to learn how to transform your business into a systemized powerhouse, where creativity and structure coexist seamlessly, all thanks to tried-and-true methodologies.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;h4 id=""&gt;&lt;strong id=""&gt;What You'll Learn in This Episode:&lt;/strong&gt;&lt;/h4&gt;&lt;ul id=""&gt;&lt;li id=""&gt;Benefits of documented processes for career growth.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li id=""&gt;Strategies for overcoming team resistance to new systems.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li id=""&gt;How clear communication and setting expectations lead to smoother workflows.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li id=""&gt;Techniques to remove excuses for non-compliance.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li id=""&gt;The impact of surrounding yourself with systems-driven individuals.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;li id=""&gt;How renowned companies like McDonald's and Netflix utilize effective systemization.&lt;/li&gt;&lt;/ul&gt;&lt;p id=""&gt;Tune in now to transform your business with expert strategies for systemization!&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p id=""&gt;‍&lt;/p&gt;&lt;div data-rt-embed-type='true'&gt;&lt;iframe width="950" height="534" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/VlJyUQwsxsY" title="Conquer Resistance: Empower Your Team with Effective System Strategies | David Jenyns | MME" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share" allowfullscreen&gt;&lt;/iframe&gt;&lt;/div&gt;&lt;p id=""&gt;‍&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p id=""&gt;You can reach out to&lt;strong id=""&gt; David Jenyns&lt;/strong&gt; here:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p id=""&gt;Website: &lt;a href="https://www.systemology.com/" id=""&gt;https://www.systemology.com/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p id=""&gt;‍&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p id=""&gt;&lt;strong id=""&gt;Mentions and Links:&lt;/strong&gt; &lt;br&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p id=""&gt;‍&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p id=""&gt;Accounting Software:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p id=""&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.myob.com/au" id=""&gt;MYOB&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p id=""&gt;‍&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p id=""&gt;Brands:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p id=""&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.mcdonalds.com/us/en-us.html" id=""&gt;McDonald's&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p id=""&gt;&lt;a href="https://www.netflix.com/" id=""&gt;Netflix&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p id=""&gt;‍&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p id=""&gt;If you want your questions answered on Monday Morning Episodes, ask me on these platforms:&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p id=""&gt;My Newsletter: &lt;a href="https://thedentalmarketer.lpages.co/newsletter/" id=""&gt;https://thedentalmarketer.lpages.co/newsletter/&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p id=""&gt;&lt;strong id=""&gt;The Dental Marketer Society Facebook Group&lt;/strong&gt;: &lt;a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/2031814726927041" id=""&gt;https://www.facebook.com/groups/2031814726927041&lt;/a&gt;&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p id=""&gt;‍&lt;/p&gt;&lt;h4 id=""&gt;Episode Transcript (Auto-Generated - Please Excuse Errors)&lt;/h4&gt;&lt;p id=""&gt;‍&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p id=""&gt;&lt;strong id=""&gt;Michael:&lt;/strong&gt; Hey Dave, so talk to us. What's one piece of advice you can give us this Monday morning? &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p id=""&gt;&lt;strong id=""&gt;David:&lt;/strong&gt; When it comes to stepping out of the day to day operations as a business owner, you've got to capture your systems and your processes. And most importantly, you've got to get your team on board. And I feel like that's probably the biggest challenge for a lot of business owners.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p id=""&gt;They try to systemize, they try it for a little bit, maybe one team member follows, maybe most of them don't, and then before they know it, everybody's forgotten about it, and it's just back to the way that things have always been. And it really, this one piece of advice I've got centers around how do you get your team on board?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p id=""&gt;How do you get your team to follow process? And even. resistant team members. How do you get them to go, Oh, this is how we do things here. And key here is the way in which it's introduced to your team. A lot of business owners, when they go, Oh, we're going to start documenting our process. And we're going to have a particular way of doing things.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p id=""&gt;The team member in their brain, they start to think, Should I be worried about my job? Is he trying to document what I'm doing so that he can replace me? Is he going to take my job offshore? I kind of like having this little black box where no one really knows what I'm doing because. It creates some level of job security for me.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p id=""&gt;I don't want to capture my process and have that available and accessible for everybody else. So that's some of the things that go on in their head and that's what can make them resistant and then fall back to the ways that they may have done things in the past or not even want to share what it is that they're doing.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p id=""&gt;So the bit of advice and the secret here is to really think about How it's going to benefit the team member. rather than just introducing it where the team thinks, Oh, the business owner is doing this to replace me, or maybe they want to go on a holiday. And, don't want to support that.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p id=""&gt;Show them how, hang on, if you document your process or capture the way that you're doing things, this can help you move up in our organization because, by documenting process, we could delegate down to some newer team members. And that doesn't make you less valuable. It makes you more valuable because now you can work on higher value tasks.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p id=""&gt;You can start to work your way up and work on these higher value activities. That's might appeal to some people. For other people, you might need to say, Hey, when you go on holiday and you tell me you want two weeks off and I say fine, but then I call you up every second day to go, Oh, where's that client's file up to?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p id=""&gt;Oh, is that job up to? Do you remember where we saved that thing? And I'm on the phone calling you every second to try and find out what's going on. By documenting our process, it means that other people can step in and do some of those tasks, and the team can keep things moving while you're on leave, so when you come back, those things are done, and you can have a proper, restful holiday.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p id=""&gt;So that might appeal to someone else, or, maybe it's, hey, there are going to be times when you're going to need time off for family. So, having process and the enable systems just means that people can step in and keep things moving. And that makes your job more secure and this business more secure.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p id=""&gt;So again, a lot of it has to do with how you frame it and how you let them know this is going to benefit their situation. That'll dramatically increase the adoption of a systems culture. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p id=""&gt;&lt;strong id=""&gt;Michael:&lt;/strong&gt; Gotcha. Okay. So then, David, can you share specific communication strategies you've used to address this type of resistance?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p id=""&gt;How do you ensure the message is understood and embraced by team members? &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p id=""&gt;&lt;strong id=""&gt;David:&lt;/strong&gt; Well, The first thing to do and it's a little bit counterintuitive, is you actually don't think about who's going to resist it up front. Think about who's going to support this initiative. So when you first introduce the topic and you say, Hey, we're going to look to build a systems culture and want to capture some different processes.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p id=""&gt;Hey, I've got, this book or this podcast that I want to share with you, just that talks a little bit about what we're doing and then see who resonates with it, who listens to it, who gets it and say, Hey I'm looking for some people who want to help me drive this forward. Who sticks their hand up.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p id=""&gt;And then start off by leaning into them. So that's kind of step number one. You start to empower them, you get the first set of systems down and then you start to celebrate system wins. when a team member does something, you go, Hey, we just documented this new process. Jenny did an awesome job over here.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p id=""&gt;Hey, Sarah, we normally have this frustration when someone goes on leave, but Sarah documented this process. And then we had John step in and do the task. Hey, Sarah, you're awesome. And you shine a spotlight on that. Maybe you give out a monthly most valued player award to the person who really embraces this idea.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p id=""&gt;that's the best place to start because then you start to go, Hey, we're going to celebrate and showcase, and this is what we want more of. So that's the first step. And then you start to watch out for the. resistant team members. Now, the best thing that you can do for them is firstly lead by example, and then by shining a light on the people that are, doing it.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p id=""&gt;And then you want to give those team members every opportunity to jump on board because new things you have to figure it out. And some people are going to embrace change more than others. And you try and support them. And then you need to really think about every team member and their situation.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p id=""&gt;And the real key is a lot of times team members, their default excuses. Yeah, but I didn't know how, or I didn't know that was expected of me. So one of the first things that you need to do is. To remove that. So by capturing a system and a process, you're then saying, Hey, well, we have a way of doing things.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p id=""&gt;You want to make sure that's never more than one click away from when they actually are doing the task. So if it's, setting up something in the dental practice, we'll have a QR code that they scan on their phone. Maybe it's on the printer or something, and it jumps to the. System or the process after scanning that QR code, or maybe it's setting up the dental practice in the morning and here's the 10 point checklist that needs to be done.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p id=""&gt;It's got to be so obvious. So front and center. So you can remove that. And then the conversation can start to change. Okay, you did know we've got a process. It's listed out here. My expectation is that you follow the process. I don't care if you've got it open or not, if you're doing it right, but since you don't yet know the process, you've got to have it open, but once you get it right, then fine.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p id=""&gt;You don't have to have it open every single time, but at the start, this is my expectation. And that's kind of just the start of how you address it. You've got to remove excuses. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p id=""&gt;&lt;strong id=""&gt;Michael:&lt;/strong&gt; so then what consequences do you implement for team members who continually resist systems? Even though you've, done these systems, you've,Remove the excuses or try to, have you found incentives to be effective in encouraging this type of adherence? &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p id=""&gt;&lt;strong id=""&gt;David:&lt;/strong&gt; you can, like I said, have something like the MVP where you might reward the system wins and shine a spotlight. You can even link it towards KPIs either the generation or the following of process.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p id=""&gt;can do a few things like that. I think the reality is. A lot of business owners don't realize up front how important it is to have someone who follows process. And it's not something that they've, incorporated into their recruitment process. Once you get this moving forward, it actually gets a lot easier.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p id=""&gt;Because you look for people who will adopt this way of doing things right from the get go. The challenge is always the existing staff who are used to doing things a certain way, who there may actually be some people in there who aren't processed people. you'll need to navigate through that.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p id=""&gt;Am I saying that you might need to jump in and do a whole bunch of, layoffs? that's definitely the last resort. And I know in certain different industries, finding labors can be challenging, but the reality is a business is infinitely easier when you surround yourself as a business owner with systems driven people.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p id=""&gt;And that goes double if the business owner, or maybe the. dental practitioner owner isn't a systems person. If you don't see yourself as a systems person, then you better make sure that you're surrounded by systems driven people. Because again, business just works better that way.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p id=""&gt;So do have to navigate through it. I've not seen, incentives. work amazingly well, generally you want people to do it, who do this naturally and then naturally organized people and you giving everybody the chance to jump on board and then addressing the ones that don't, oftentimes you're the employer, like the person listening to this, you're paying, they're there to do a job and it's okay for you to have, A set of expectations around the way that you want things done.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p id=""&gt;That's your right as a business owner. But just persist with it. Cause it's, challenging at the start, but you get over this hump and then business just gets so much easier. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p id=""&gt;&lt;strong id=""&gt;Michael:&lt;/strong&gt; Yeah, I like that. Okay. So then you mentioned KPIs to like, do you track and measure whether team members are following the systems specifically as a leader?&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p id=""&gt;Like what role do you personally play in and ensuring systems are followed? &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p id=""&gt;&lt;strong id=""&gt;David:&lt;/strong&gt; there's a couple of different ways that you can do it depending on the task, depending on who it is. If you've got some sort of project management software in how tasks are signed out, you can look at how they complete the tasks many times they're checking certain things off.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p id=""&gt;You can have a look at error rate depending on if certain tasks causing you some challenges because people aren't following process and it's causing errors. So you can track that error rate and you're looking for reduction in that by following the process. it comes down to this whole idea that, to improve something, you have to track it.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p id=""&gt;So you just have to think about what is it that you want to improve? If you want to improve the fact that they're. Opening the process or successfully completing it. Maybe there's some final step that they have to complete, which confirms that they have reviewed and followed the checklist.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p id=""&gt;And then you're monitoring how often they're doing that, or are they doing that? depend on the situation and the task. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p id=""&gt;&lt;strong id=""&gt;Michael:&lt;/strong&gt; Gotcha, gotcha. I like that. that in mind, like at the end of the day, make sure you're,you let me know, or you send me an email or you do this checklist.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p id=""&gt;And then office manager at the end of the week, we'll look at how many people did this. How do you balance being hands on with empowering your team to take ownership of these systems versus it's seeming like, man, he's just micromanaging everything. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p id=""&gt;&lt;strong id=""&gt;David:&lt;/strong&gt; Yes. Yeah. The main thing there is depending on what the work is, you've got to Systemize all of the things that need to happen in business.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p id=""&gt;There are certain things that kind of just need to happen a certain way. patients will need to be checked in a certain way or they have to fill out certain forms, maybe The practice or the studio needs to be set up a particular way, try and systemize all of the mundane pieces or parts of business that just need to be done a certain way.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p id=""&gt;And sometimes leaving out the creative part or doing those types of systems a little bit more high level, You, you've got to think about who's doing the task and documenting to the level that's required for that person. If they're a skilled operator, you don't need to tell them well, here's exactly how you log into MYOB.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p id=""&gt;Here's the exact buttons that you need to check. it can feel, like you're micromanaging at that level. It's art and science, to try and find the right balance for this. look at something like McDonald's, And McDonald's has systemized every possible aspect down to the minute detail, but they're also running a hamburger business that is taking very unskilled operators, flipping hamburgers.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p id=""&gt;So they've got to go down to that level and it can really feel. Like micromanagement, whereas a lot of people are going to be running, a successful business with high quality team members, and you've mightnot need to get down to that level. A quote that Reed Hastings said from Netflix and he said, when we started systemizing, we wanted to systemize every possible aspect of the business. We wanted to make sure our business was dummy proof. The only thing was once we got it to that level, only dummies wanted to work there. Because they'd gone too far on the systemization spectrum.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p id=""&gt;So again, lot of this has be with, thinking about the situation, the individuals and what they need to do a great job. If it feels like micromanagement chunk up a level, have a higher quality or higher level checklist that has, key milestone levels instead of these super micro details.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p id=""&gt;&lt;strong id=""&gt;Michael:&lt;/strong&gt; Nice. Awesome, David. I appreciate your time. And if anyone has further questions, you can definitely find them on the Dental Marketer Society Facebook group or where can they reach out to you directly? &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p id=""&gt;&lt;strong id=""&gt;David:&lt;/strong&gt; Yeah, best to just go to systemology. com and there's some links through to, all of the ways to contact us or follow us on social media.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p id=""&gt;&lt;strong id=""&gt;Michael:&lt;/strong&gt; Awesome. So that's going to be in the show notes below. And David, thank you so much for being with me on this Monday morning episode. &lt;/p&gt;&lt;p id=""&gt;&lt;strong id=""&gt;David:&lt;/strong&gt; Pleasure. Thank you.&lt;/p&gt;&lt;p id=""&gt;‍&lt;/p&gt;</description>

The Dental Marketer

Michael Arias

Conquer Resistance: Empower Your Team with Effective System Strategies | David Jenyns | MME

OCT 28, 2024-1 MIN
The Dental Marketer

Conquer Resistance: Empower Your Team with Effective System Strategies | David Jenyns | MME

OCT 28, 2024-1 MIN

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<p id="">Imagine enjoying the freedom to focus on visionary leadership while your business runs like a well-oiled machine. This Monday Morning Episode dives deep into the art of systemization in business operations, partnering with systems expert David Jenyns to reveal transformative strategies that liberate business owners and team members from monotonous daily tasks. Discover insights behind legendary organizations like McDonald's and Netflix, as David sheds light on the benefits of implementing documented processes. This episode not only highlights how these processes lead to career growth, job security, and streamlined workflows but also tackles the common hurdle of team resistance, providing actionable advice on engaging early adopters and ensuring positive introductions to new systems.</p><p id="">David emphasizes the importance of clear communication and tailored processes that strike the ideal balance between systemization and empowerment. He discusses how business owners can remove non-compliance excuses, set clear expectations, and build a team of systems-driven individuals, paving the way for sustainable success. Tune in to learn how to transform your business into a systemized powerhouse, where creativity and structure coexist seamlessly, all thanks to tried-and-true methodologies.</p><h4 id=""><strong id="">What You'll Learn in This Episode:</strong></h4><ul id=""><li id="">Benefits of documented processes for career growth.</li><li id="">Strategies for overcoming team resistance to new systems.</li><li id="">How clear communication and setting expectations lead to smoother workflows.</li><li id="">Techniques to remove excuses for non-compliance.</li><li id="">The impact of surrounding yourself with systems-driven individuals.</li><li id="">How renowned companies like McDonald's and Netflix utilize effective systemization.</li></ul><p id="">Tune in now to transform your business with expert strategies for systemization!</p><p id="">‍</p><div data-rt-embed-type='true'><iframe width="950" height="534" src="https://www.youtube.com/embed/VlJyUQwsxsY" title="Conquer Resistance: Empower Your Team with Effective System Strategies | David Jenyns | MME" frameborder="0" allow="accelerometer; autoplay; clipboard-write; encrypted-media; gyroscope; picture-in-picture; web-share" allowfullscreen></iframe></div><p id="">‍</p><p id="">You can reach out to<strong id=""> David Jenyns</strong> here:</p><p id="">Website: <a href="https://www.systemology.com/" id="">https://www.systemology.com/</a></p><p id="">‍</p><p id=""><strong id="">Mentions and Links:</strong> <br></p><p id="">‍</p><p id="">Accounting Software:</p><p id=""><a href="https://www.myob.com/au" id="">MYOB</a></p><p id="">‍</p><p id="">Brands:</p><p id=""><a href="https://www.mcdonalds.com/us/en-us.html" id="">McDonald's</a></p><p id=""><a href="https://www.netflix.com/" id="">Netflix</a></p><p id="">‍</p><p id="">If you want your questions answered on Monday Morning Episodes, ask me on these platforms:</p><p id="">My Newsletter: <a href="https://thedentalmarketer.lpages.co/newsletter/" id="">https://thedentalmarketer.lpages.co/newsletter/</a></p><p id=""><strong id="">The Dental Marketer Society Facebook Group</strong>: <a href="https://www.facebook.com/groups/2031814726927041" id="">https://www.facebook.com/groups/2031814726927041</a></p><p id="">‍</p><h4 id="">Episode Transcript (Auto-Generated - Please Excuse Errors)</h4><p id="">‍</p><p id=""><strong id="">Michael:</strong> Hey Dave, so talk to us. What's one piece of advice you can give us this Monday morning? </p><p id=""><strong id="">David:</strong> When it comes to stepping out of the day to day operations as a business owner, you've got to capture your systems and your processes. And most importantly, you've got to get your team on board. And I feel like that's probably the biggest challenge for a lot of business owners.</p><p id="">They try to systemize, they try it for a little bit, maybe one team member follows, maybe most of them don't, and then before they know it, everybody's forgotten about it, and it's just back to the way that things have always been. And it really, this one piece of advice I've got centers around how do you get your team on board?</p><p id="">How do you get your team to follow process? And even. resistant team members. How do you get them to go, Oh, this is how we do things here. And key here is the way in which it's introduced to your team. A lot of business owners, when they go, Oh, we're going to start documenting our process. And we're going to have a particular way of doing things.</p><p id="">The team member in their brain, they start to think, Should I be worried about my job? Is he trying to document what I'm doing so that he can replace me? Is he going to take my job offshore? I kind of like having this little black box where no one really knows what I'm doing because. It creates some level of job security for me.</p><p id="">I don't want to capture my process and have that available and accessible for everybody else. So that's some of the things that go on in their head and that's what can make them resistant and then fall back to the ways that they may have done things in the past or not even want to share what it is that they're doing.</p><p id="">So the bit of advice and the secret here is to really think about How it's going to benefit the team member. rather than just introducing it where the team thinks, Oh, the business owner is doing this to replace me, or maybe they want to go on a holiday. And, don't want to support that.</p><p id="">Show them how, hang on, if you document your process or capture the way that you're doing things, this can help you move up in our organization because, by documenting process, we could delegate down to some newer team members. And that doesn't make you less valuable. It makes you more valuable because now you can work on higher value tasks.</p><p id="">You can start to work your way up and work on these higher value activities. That's might appeal to some people. For other people, you might need to say, Hey, when you go on holiday and you tell me you want two weeks off and I say fine, but then I call you up every second day to go, Oh, where's that client's file up to?</p><p id="">Oh, is that job up to? Do you remember where we saved that thing? And I'm on the phone calling you every second to try and find out what's going on. By documenting our process, it means that other people can step in and do some of those tasks, and the team can keep things moving while you're on leave, so when you come back, those things are done, and you can have a proper, restful holiday.</p><p id="">So that might appeal to someone else, or, maybe it's, hey, there are going to be times when you're going to need time off for family. So, having process and the enable systems just means that people can step in and keep things moving. And that makes your job more secure and this business more secure.</p><p id="">So again, a lot of it has to do with how you frame it and how you let them know this is going to benefit their situation. That'll dramatically increase the adoption of a systems culture. </p><p id=""><strong id="">Michael:</strong> Gotcha. Okay. So then, David, can you share specific communication strategies you've used to address this type of resistance?</p><p id="">How do you ensure the message is understood and embraced by team members? </p><p id=""><strong id="">David:</strong> Well, The first thing to do and it's a little bit counterintuitive, is you actually don't think about who's going to resist it up front. Think about who's going to support this initiative. So when you first introduce the topic and you say, Hey, we're going to look to build a systems culture and want to capture some different processes.</p><p id="">Hey, I've got, this book or this podcast that I want to share with you, just that talks a little bit about what we're doing and then see who resonates with it, who listens to it, who gets it and say, Hey I'm looking for some people who want to help me drive this forward. Who sticks their hand up.</p><p id="">And then start off by leaning into them. So that's kind of step number one. You start to empower them, you get the first set of systems down and then you start to celebrate system wins. when a team member does something, you go, Hey, we just documented this new process. Jenny did an awesome job over here.</p><p id="">Hey, Sarah, we normally have this frustration when someone goes on leave, but Sarah documented this process. And then we had John step in and do the task. Hey, Sarah, you're awesome. And you shine a spotlight on that. Maybe you give out a monthly most valued player award to the person who really embraces this idea.</p><p id="">that's the best place to start because then you start to go, Hey, we're going to celebrate and showcase, and this is what we want more of. So that's the first step. And then you start to watch out for the. resistant team members. Now, the best thing that you can do for them is firstly lead by example, and then by shining a light on the people that are, doing it.</p><p id="">And then you want to give those team members every opportunity to jump on board because new things you have to figure it out. And some people are going to embrace change more than others. And you try and support them. And then you need to really think about every team member and their situation.</p><p id="">And the real key is a lot of times team members, their default excuses. Yeah, but I didn't know how, or I didn't know that was expected of me. So one of the first things that you need to do is. To remove that. So by capturing a system and a process, you're then saying, Hey, well, we have a way of doing things.</p><p id="">You want to make sure that's never more than one click away from when they actually are doing the task. So if it's, setting up something in the dental practice, we'll have a QR code that they scan on their phone. Maybe it's on the printer or something, and it jumps to the. System or the process after scanning that QR code, or maybe it's setting up the dental practice in the morning and here's the 10 point checklist that needs to be done.</p><p id="">It's got to be so obvious. So front and center. So you can remove that. And then the conversation can start to change. Okay, you did know we've got a process. It's listed out here. My expectation is that you follow the process. I don't care if you've got it open or not, if you're doing it right, but since you don't yet know the process, you've got to have it open, but once you get it right, then fine.</p><p id="">You don't have to have it open every single time, but at the start, this is my expectation. And that's kind of just the start of how you address it. You've got to remove excuses. </p><p id=""><strong id="">Michael:</strong> so then what consequences do you implement for team members who continually resist systems? Even though you've, done these systems, you've,Remove the excuses or try to, have you found incentives to be effective in encouraging this type of adherence? </p><p id=""><strong id="">David:</strong> you can, like I said, have something like the MVP where you might reward the system wins and shine a spotlight. You can even link it towards KPIs either the generation or the following of process.</p><p id="">can do a few things like that. I think the reality is. A lot of business owners don't realize up front how important it is to have someone who follows process. And it's not something that they've, incorporated into their recruitment process. Once you get this moving forward, it actually gets a lot easier.</p><p id="">Because you look for people who will adopt this way of doing things right from the get go. The challenge is always the existing staff who are used to doing things a certain way, who there may actually be some people in there who aren't processed people. you'll need to navigate through that.</p><p id="">Am I saying that you might need to jump in and do a whole bunch of, layoffs? that's definitely the last resort. And I know in certain different industries, finding labors can be challenging, but the reality is a business is infinitely easier when you surround yourself as a business owner with systems driven people.</p><p id="">And that goes double if the business owner, or maybe the. dental practitioner owner isn't a systems person. If you don't see yourself as a systems person, then you better make sure that you're surrounded by systems driven people. Because again, business just works better that way.</p><p id="">So do have to navigate through it. I've not seen, incentives. work amazingly well, generally you want people to do it, who do this naturally and then naturally organized people and you giving everybody the chance to jump on board and then addressing the ones that don't, oftentimes you're the employer, like the person listening to this, you're paying, they're there to do a job and it's okay for you to have, A set of expectations around the way that you want things done.</p><p id="">That's your right as a business owner. But just persist with it. Cause it's, challenging at the start, but you get over this hump and then business just gets so much easier. </p><p id=""><strong id="">Michael:</strong> Yeah, I like that. Okay. So then you mentioned KPIs to like, do you track and measure whether team members are following the systems specifically as a leader?</p><p id="">Like what role do you personally play in and ensuring systems are followed? </p><p id=""><strong id="">David:</strong> there's a couple of different ways that you can do it depending on the task, depending on who it is. If you've got some sort of project management software in how tasks are signed out, you can look at how they complete the tasks many times they're checking certain things off.</p><p id="">You can have a look at error rate depending on if certain tasks causing you some challenges because people aren't following process and it's causing errors. So you can track that error rate and you're looking for reduction in that by following the process. it comes down to this whole idea that, to improve something, you have to track it.</p><p id="">So you just have to think about what is it that you want to improve? If you want to improve the fact that they're. Opening the process or successfully completing it. Maybe there's some final step that they have to complete, which confirms that they have reviewed and followed the checklist.</p><p id="">And then you're monitoring how often they're doing that, or are they doing that? depend on the situation and the task. </p><p id=""><strong id="">Michael:</strong> Gotcha, gotcha. I like that. that in mind, like at the end of the day, make sure you're,you let me know, or you send me an email or you do this checklist.</p><p id="">And then office manager at the end of the week, we'll look at how many people did this. How do you balance being hands on with empowering your team to take ownership of these systems versus it's seeming like, man, he's just micromanaging everything. </p><p id=""><strong id="">David:</strong> Yes. Yeah. The main thing there is depending on what the work is, you've got to Systemize all of the things that need to happen in business.</p><p id="">There are certain things that kind of just need to happen a certain way. patients will need to be checked in a certain way or they have to fill out certain forms, maybe The practice or the studio needs to be set up a particular way, try and systemize all of the mundane pieces or parts of business that just need to be done a certain way.</p><p id="">And sometimes leaving out the creative part or doing those types of systems a little bit more high level, You, you've got to think about who's doing the task and documenting to the level that's required for that person. If they're a skilled operator, you don't need to tell them well, here's exactly how you log into MYOB.</p><p id="">Here's the exact buttons that you need to check. it can feel, like you're micromanaging at that level. It's art and science, to try and find the right balance for this. look at something like McDonald's, And McDonald's has systemized every possible aspect down to the minute detail, but they're also running a hamburger business that is taking very unskilled operators, flipping hamburgers.</p><p id="">So they've got to go down to that level and it can really feel. Like micromanagement, whereas a lot of people are going to be running, a successful business with high quality team members, and you've mightnot need to get down to that level. A quote that Reed Hastings said from Netflix and he said, when we started systemizing, we wanted to systemize every possible aspect of the business. We wanted to make sure our business was dummy proof. The only thing was once we got it to that level, only dummies wanted to work there. Because they'd gone too far on the systemization spectrum.</p><p id="">So again, lot of this has be with, thinking about the situation, the individuals and what they need to do a great job. If it feels like micromanagement chunk up a level, have a higher quality or higher level checklist that has, key milestone levels instead of these super micro details.</p><p id=""><strong id="">Michael:</strong> Nice. Awesome, David. I appreciate your time. And if anyone has further questions, you can definitely find them on the Dental Marketer Society Facebook group or where can they reach out to you directly? </p><p id=""><strong id="">David:</strong> Yeah, best to just go to systemology. com and there's some links through to, all of the ways to contact us or follow us on social media.</p><p id=""><strong id="">Michael:</strong> Awesome. So that's going to be in the show notes below. And David, thank you so much for being with me on this Monday morning episode. </p><p id=""><strong id="">David:</strong> Pleasure. Thank you.</p><p id="">‍</p>