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<p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>主播｜李志明 嘉宾｜马家辉</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>本期节目的嘉宾是知名作家，文化评论者马家辉先生，这是一次关于自我和家庭的对谈。</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>《你不必着急成为一个大人》是马家辉与太太张家瑜的亲情散文之书，集结了三十年间二人写给女儿的文章。即便写作对象是女儿，创作的实质却是“为自己”，核心仍是探索自我与生命的关系。而字里行间流露出的温柔，则是他借用康德的“无上律令”对自己提出的要求和期待，但更是一种自我训诫。提到女儿时，马家辉的语调总会柔软几分，他回忆女儿幼时戒奶嘴的独立瞬间，也反思自己在冲突时的情绪失控，同时也因家庭的“语言治疗”习惯而庆幸着。谈及当下的原生家庭困境，马家辉拒绝简化善恶，两代人的痛苦，往往因社会支撑缺失而被放大，原谅或者不原谅，都是个体的命运选择。所谓亲子关系，终究是一场向内探索的旅程，父母与子女互为镜鉴，而后在漫长的岁月里与不完美的自己温柔和解。</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>马家辉先生今天带着新书来做客，也有一段话要送给各位：</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>你手里的这本书并不只是一父一母为孩子而写的文章。它更是自我叩问之书。之于我，“高中生”只是个象征符号，“过期的”则是个不太重要的年龄数字。高中生，其实也可以改头成小学生、大学生，或者社会人，而无论贴上什么标签，关键只在于是否仍对世界和生命抱持着探索的热情和探奇的欲望。</span></p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span><b>｜song list｜</b></span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>片头曲：Sonata for Piano and Violin in E minor K. 304: 2. Tempo di minuetto</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>片尾曲：12 Variations on "Ah, vous dirai-je, Maman", K.265 (300c)</span></p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span><b>｜timeline｜</b></span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><a style="color:#4990E2;text-decoration:none;"><span>01:53</span></a><span> 《你不必着急成为一个大人》是自我叩问之书</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><a style="color:#4990E2;text-decoration:none;"><span>05:24</span></a><span> 我希望女儿不要读我的文章，同样我也不敢读她的文章</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><a style="color:#4990E2;text-decoration:none;"><span>11:22</span></a><span> 温柔是基于康德的“无上律令”，对自己提出的要求和期待</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><a style="color:#4990E2;text-decoration:none;"><span>18:07</span></a><span> 接受自己是个“不完美”父亲，遗憾常有，有些事情就let go吧</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><a style="color:#4990E2;text-decoration:none;"><span>26:02</span></a><span> 面对原生家庭问题，和解或是斗争都是个体的命运选择</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><a style="color:#4990E2;text-decoration:none;"><span>30:10</span></a><span> 成长并非一个瞬间，而是点点滴滴的积累</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><a style="color:#4990E2;text-decoration:none;"><span>39:55</span></a><span> 孩子的自由与管教如何平衡？</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><a style="color:#4990E2;text-decoration:none;"><span>44:37</span></a><span> 乐观也是一种人生策略</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><a style="color:#4990E2;text-decoration:none;"><span>48:26</span></a><span> 你是谁的父亲不重要，你是谁才最重要</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><a style="color:#4990E2;text-decoration:none;"><span>57:37</span></a><span> 原生家庭的困境往往因社会支撑缺失而被放大</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><a style="color:#4990E2;text-decoration:none;"><span>1:02:10</span></a><span> 对任何人都可以有期待，但永远无法控制</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><a style="color:#4990E2;text-decoration:none;"><span>1:06:32</span></a><span> 成为父亲和丈夫以来最大的变化，是学会站在别人的角度看自己</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><a style="color:#4990E2;text-decoration:none;"><span>1:11:19</span></a><span> “家辉”背后的家族记忆与责任传承</span></p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica, Arial, sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span><b>｜本期嘉宾｜</b></span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>马家辉，曾任职于广告公司、报社、杂志社，后赴美留学，先后取得美国芝加哥大学社会科学硕士、美国威斯康星大学社会学博士学位。曾担任《明报》副总编辑。出版散文集《大叔》《死在这里也不错》等。长篇小说《龙头凤尾》和《鸳鸯六七四》获多个文学奖项，有韩文及法文译本。现正撰写“香港三部曲”第三部《双天至尊》。</span></p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span><b>｜相关链接｜</b></span></p><img data-key="0" src="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/dd78-audiofreehighqps/B2/7E/GAqhqKwLukGpAAtpkQOHkhsf.jpeg!op_type=4&upload_type=attachment&device_type=ios&name=mobile_large" data-origin="http://fdfs.xmcdn.com/storages/dd78-audiofreehighqps/B2/7E/GAqhqKwLukGpAAtpkQOHkhsf.jpeg" data-preview-width="140" data-large="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/dd78-audiofreehighqps/B2/7E/GAqhqKwLukGpAAtpkQOHkhsf.jpeg!op_type=4&upload_type=attachment&device_type=ios&name=mobile_large" data-large-height="750" data-preview="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/dd78-audiofreehighqps/B2/7E/GAqhqKwLukGpAAtpkQOHkhsf.jpeg!op_type=4&upload_type=attachment&device_type=ios&name=mobile_small" data-large-width="750" data-preview-height="140"><br><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>本书是著名作家马家辉、张家瑜合著的散文集。</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>自女儿出生之日起的成长轨迹与亲子互动片段，父母在女儿不断成长、转变过程中的喜悦、烦恼、惶惑和反省，在或轻快或深情的笔端一一呈现。父母心情熔铸一体，将温暖朴素的爱藏在日常岁月中，立体地展现了在孩子成长中，父母如何成为现在的父母。在整个过程中，他们一同经历了挫败并获得成长满足、失望，以及笑声和泪水促成了他们生命的惊喜与灵魂的更新。每个人都有自己的花期按照自己的节奏开花长大就好。</span></p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span><b>｜节目中提到的书籍和电影｜</b></span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>《你不必着急成为一个大人物》作者：马家辉</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>《大叔：我们终于可以聊聊走过的路》作者：马家辉</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>《我是开豆腐店的，我只做豆腐》作者：小津安二郎</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>《父亲的道歉信》作者：向田邦子</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>《宛如阿修罗》导演：是枝裕和</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>《年轻气盛》导演：索伦蒂诺</span></p><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span>《封神第一部：朝歌风云》导演：乌尔善</span></p><span><br></span><p style="color:#333333;font-weight:normal;font-size:16px;line-height:30px;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;hyphens:auto;text-align:justify;" data-flag="normal"><span><b>｜相关图片｜</b></span></p><img data-key="1" src="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/5900-audiofreehighqps/17/13/GAqh1QQLukGqACI-kQOHkhtM.jpeg!op_type=4&upload_type=attachment&device_type=ios&name=mobile_large" data-origin="http://fdfs.xmcdn.com/storages/5900-audiofreehighqps/17/13/GAqh1QQLukGqACI-kQOHkhtM.jpeg" data-preview-width="140" data-large="http://imagev2.xmcdn.com/storages/5900-audiofreehighqps/17/13/GAqh1QQLukGqACI-kQOHkhtM.jpeg!op_type=4&upload_type=attachment&device_type=ios&name=mobile_large" data-large-height="999" 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